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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hjorimir" data-source="post: 4023150" data-attributes="member: 5745">Just for illustrative purposes, I'm going to use your own post as an example of things that start small but could quickly start a flame war.So you're presenting second-hand news as fact. Then you go on to attack the company that owns the game this entire website is all about. It would be like going to a Mustang fan message board and attacking Ford. Sure, not everybody will care (and a few may even agree with you), but do you think it's really a worthy pursuit?So you're basically saying if somebody likes 4E they don't like D&D or not really a D&D player.Well, let's see. I'm definately in the 'older' crowd and I'm not passing on 4E, which means you're trying to talk for me. What you're basically insinuating here is that the younger (i.e. less mature) will be okay with 4E, but older (i.e. wiser) will stay with 3E because it is clearly the better game.How do you define many? How did you come to that conclusion? How many D&D players are there right now? How do any of us know? What percentage equates to 'many' and how have we tracked that demographic's opinions?You see how easy it is to read insult where none may be intended? (I am at least assuming you didn't intend insult in your post here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />). I've seen plenty of constructive anti 4E posts around here, but they usually stick to specifics ("If you look at the latest article over at WotC they are talking about magic rings and..."). Anything resembling an attack on other people (or group of people such as those who are pro or anti 4E) is going to get the mods involved... and I'm glad they get involved. So I'm clear, when I say involved, that isn't meant to say they start banning immediately. It has been my experience that they post warnings. All I know is that I've never been banned and I'm trying to keep it that way.Maybe it is the very nature of anti 4E posts to draw "undue" attention because they tend to "attack" by the virtue of being against something else. So I guess I can see how the perception is that the mods attack those who attack 4E, but it just isn't so. It's easier to be pro 4E and shout for joy at the impending changes because while doing so your message doesn't necessarily lend itself to attack (usually), but if somebody started posting those who don't like 4E are losers or any other such nonsense, I'd want the mods to step in as well.D&D players are pretty passionate about the game. For a lot of us, it isn't just a game, it is a deep hobby. Something we care about and have invested a lot of time and money into. Whenever you have something like that, you should expect people will be pretty defensive of it. I try to remind myself that some 4E attacks are a form of defense by those who see the support of the edition they love slipping away. (I also happen to think that it's pretty pointless as WotC is going to release 4E or 'the ship has sailed' as the case may be.)Me, I'm pro 4E (obviously), but I think that any edition is fine if you and yours are having fun. I won't rain on your parade; please don't rain on mine.Peace.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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