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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9012593" data-attributes="member: 93670">Are you seriously claiming that if a player ever misunderstands the situation as described  and makes any effort whatsoever (no matter how slight) to undo or avoid the  negative result of that misunderstanding to any degree they are a problem player?  Or are you saying that the GM should rule their table with a heart of ice & shrug off any such disappointment as the price of spending time playing at a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman" target="_blank">real GM's</a> table?You yourself gave a trivial example of how things  snowball & did it as if it was a contrasting one of  perfectly reasonable behavior.  That's also the same kind of friction I've been talking about.That bold bit is all it takes to start the snowball from Alice to Bob to Cindy.  Maybe Cindy is quiet this time and just wants to get on with things but next time she wants to avoid the whole mess & very reasonably asks the GM to<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/why-is-wotc-still-aiming-for-pcs-with-10-real-word-feet-of-range-w-o-vision-range-penalty-limit-rules-for-the-gm.697472/post-9012424" target="_blank"> flick their mouse</a> but a flick of the mouse means that it's no longer in ToTM & the GM now has a  battlefield that is still up to about 20 feet worth of table space despite scrolling due to the design of various abilities.  At no point in that has anyone acted unreasonable, the only unreasonable element in that exchange is the abilities with 600feet of range & the system's failure to provide the GM with tools for mitigating that.</blockquote>

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