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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 9023615" data-attributes="member: 463">I agree. Notably, the 1e AD&amp;D 'dungeon' range was 210 feet, vs 210 yards outdoors. Gygax recognised an issue, at least to some extent. IMCs I use the 'dungeon' ranges outside too, works fine. 4e D&amp;D I think uses 40 squares/200 feet, it's the only edition I know with realistic missile weapon ranges.Re how to implement in 5e, well Dragonbane, which is a very well designed modern RPG, stacks Banes (Disadvantage) - one extra d20 per range increment beyond the first. Stacking disad ought to work in 5e AFAICT and would still allow for the insanely good archer who can hit a moving target at 600' - and they get to roll a bucket of dice, previously the prerogative of the spellcasters. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 9023615, member: 463"] I agree. Notably, the 1e AD&D 'dungeon' range was 210 feet, vs 210 yards outdoors. Gygax recognised an issue, at least to some extent. IMCs I use the 'dungeon' ranges outside too, works fine. 4e D&D I think uses 40 squares/200 feet, it's the only edition I know with realistic missile weapon ranges. Re how to implement in 5e, well Dragonbane, which is a very well designed modern RPG, stacks Banes (Disadvantage) - one extra d20 per range increment beyond the first. Stacking disad ought to work in 5e AFAICT and would still allow for the insanely good archer who can hit a moving target at 600' - and they get to roll a bucket of dice, previously the prerogative of the spellcasters. :) [/QUOTE]

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