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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6974259" data-attributes="member: 2525">It was not in any way nonsense.&nbsp; It's not impossible to come up with a good approximation, and of course you don't need to contact &quot;every gamer in the world&quot; to come up with an approximation. I am curious at your reply in fact. It suggests you didn't read what I wrote, and that you think I said they know exactly the number as opposed to what I said, which was a good approximation. I will repeat, in case you missed it:They know how many [total players] existed at date X (Cook and Dancey both confirmed that - they know based on a very strong, very well distributed survey they did combined with retail and distributor numbers which was prior to internet distribution, back when WOTC took over), attrition and gain rates with trend data going back decades, approximate defection numbers to Pathfinder and OSR and other editions, PHB 5e sales numbers, usage numbers at online playing platforms and conventions, and approximate internet discussion rates with controls. And that data can then be combined and compared to AP sales numbers. That's a lot of data to drill down to a fairly good approximation of the answer.So yes, WOTC has a fairly good approximation to work with concerning the number of D&amp;D players total right now, and the number of 5e players, and the success and failure rates of their publications for 5e.&nbsp; WoTc does have a very good approximation of the ratio between all D&amp;D players vs how many are buying these AP's.&nbsp; Your assumption that they don't have good data to work with is false. It's not EXACT data, and nobody here has claimed EXACT data.&nbsp; But they have good approximate data, and that's all that's necessary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6974259, member: 2525"] It was not in any way nonsense. It's not impossible to come up with a good approximation, and of course you don't need to contact "every gamer in the world" to come up with an approximation. I am curious at your reply in fact. It suggests you didn't read what I wrote, and that you think I said they know exactly the number as opposed to what I said, which was a good approximation. I will repeat, in case you missed it: They know how many [total players] existed at date X (Cook and Dancey both confirmed that - they know based on a very strong, very well distributed survey they did combined with retail and distributor numbers which was prior to internet distribution, back when WOTC took over), attrition and gain rates with trend data going back decades, approximate defection numbers to Pathfinder and OSR and other editions, PHB 5e sales numbers, usage numbers at online playing platforms and conventions, and approximate internet discussion rates with controls. And that data can then be combined and compared to AP sales numbers. That's a lot of data to drill down to a fairly good approximation of the answer. So yes, WOTC has a fairly good approximation to work with concerning the number of D&D players total right now, and the number of 5e players, and the success and failure rates of their publications for 5e. WoTc does have a very good approximation of the ratio between all D&D players vs how many are buying these AP's. Your assumption that they don't have good data to work with is false. It's not EXACT data, and nobody here has claimed EXACT data. But they have good approximate data, and that's all that's necessary. [/QUOTE]

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