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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8655015" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I will address this very briefly, as I choose specifically not to in the post you are replying to.There seems to be confusion regarding two separate issues; the first is regarding conversations on these discussions boards. On this, I tend to largely agree with [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] and [USER=7030755]@Malmuria[/USER] - which is to say ... know your audience. Look at the threads. Once you exclude the Geek Media threads, do you notice anything? The vast majority of them are about 5e. And then older editions of D&D. And then Level Up (which is advanced 5e). This board covers general TTRPG topics, but is so firmly entrenched in "D&D" that it was one of the few websites specifically called out on the last, 34 hour survey on D&D by WoTC (the time taken is approximate, but feels accurate).With that in mind, when you are already in a place with large numbers of D&D players, and you are employing a theory (pace [USER=7030755]@Malmuria[/USER] that is, at best, seen as dismissive of D&D and trad games, and at worst, is considered hostile to "trad" games), you will likely get pushback on the jargon as people will not accept it. That's neither good, nor bad, but is.That's separate from what I was just saying, which is that there is a lot of stuff out there since the Forge. And the games that are out there may have some debt to those theories, but if you listen to the people designing games today, as opposed to the players theorizing on these boards, they eschew those restrictive labels. And sometimes, when people try and discuss other new games and styles that aren't trad and also aren't under narrativism, we end up with pushback (sometimes very aggressive pushback) regarding those indie games and theories, and demands that we justify it under Forge jargon. Which ... again, if you aren't doing "N," isn't helpful.But yes, I am glad you have found games and a play style that you find satisfying! And I hope that you are able to discuss it with others in an open and productive way here, and that you accord others the same respect when they are discussing other issues as well. That's how it should be! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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