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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8666832" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>He means exactly what he said. There is a vast ocean of ink on this site that has been spent asserting that these issues of coherence in D&amp;D are simply &quot;the way RPGs are.&quot; I mean, sure such posters assert some nostrums in terms of 'fixing' individual instances of them. Often various parties at the table are vilified for being stubborn, disruptive, too rigid, whatever. The factors in game design and organization/process of play that actually lead to them? Those are literally assumed to be gospel of RPGs. I cannot tell you how many times I've read posts that LITERALLY state &quot;This is how RPGs are, the GM has to do XYZ, and the player must do ABC, that's how it is!&quot; in response to some suggestion that this is not all there is to RPGs. Usually, but not always, its some variation of common play of D&amp;D, with trad GM/Player roles, etc. I will literally put money on we can go to the D&amp;D threads and find one where virtually exactly this was posted TODAY, because it happens every single day. Its common as rain.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8666832, member: 82106"] He means exactly what he said. There is a vast ocean of ink on this site that has been spent asserting that these issues of coherence in D&D are simply "the way RPGs are." I mean, sure such posters assert some nostrums in terms of 'fixing' individual instances of them. Often various parties at the table are vilified for being stubborn, disruptive, too rigid, whatever. The factors in game design and organization/process of play that actually lead to them? Those are literally assumed to be gospel of RPGs. I cannot tell you how many times I've read posts that LITERALLY state "This is how RPGs are, the GM has to do XYZ, and the player must do ABC, that's how it is!" in response to some suggestion that this is not all there is to RPGs. Usually, but not always, its some variation of common play of D&D, with trad GM/Player roles, etc. I will literally put money on we can go to the D&D threads and find one where virtually exactly this was posted TODAY, because it happens every single day. Its common as rain. [/QUOTE]

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