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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wraith-Hunter" data-source="post: 3283058" data-attributes="member: 48298">Very good post.There is another thing to consider, for those of us who purchase the minis. Price and Time.I was @ my LGS comparing prices. They were selling the DDM for full retail $15/box. They also had a very good line of GW.So I went over and looked at prices for packs of mooks. Most were around 9-12 plastic minis, maybe a few more. Prices ranged from 30-45 bucks a pack. Many had lots of dust on them. How much more for paint, brushes, glue, time?In the same store they had the DDM 8 minis for 15 bucks, (or 16 for 30) None of the GW had 16 minis to my recollection. So you get more mini's per dollar with DDM. Though it is random compared to GW. Nothing older than War Drums and they sold very well. Took up one shelf. GW takes up half the store.The other big thing is time. I do not have time (nor the talent or desire) to paint minis. It took me 3 years to prime the LotR minis I got, and they still aren't painted. Sure DDM is not as good of a paint job as a well done GW, but it is better than I can do saves me time and money on paints and supplies.Even IF WotC did mook packs they would NOT sell at the current prices. They would have to be more than what GW charges to make up for sales volume. Not to mention lost revenues from customers not buying random packs to buy the mook packs. Then people would be complaining that WotC was just bilking the customers and ripping them off with higher prices. Catch 22The random minis gets us minis that are inexpensive, ready to go, they even come with stat cards. A non-random model will get us minis with little variety and at a higher cost.There IS a secondary market. Ebay, LGS, Online Trading, Enworlders selling figs, Online Stores etc. You have LOTS of choices to get exactly what you want. There were a few people on the 'Dear Hasbro' thread that were dead set against doing business online or with CC, or with ebay or with paypal. Hey I hate the post office the cable company and the power company too... but I suck it up. I like getting my checks, watching HBO and having power, air-conditioning is mandatory in FL.Frankly it is 2007. I am not typing this on my Comodore 64. I have never seen a Pinto IRL and my cell phone is smaller than my wallet, and my tv remote does not weigh 10 pounds and teathered to the TV. You really need to step into the 21st century. I use a debit card not credit cards and pay cash for anything that I can. More hassle and I can under stand it. But in the real world you are a VERY small minority of people who refuse to do business online. WotC will never cater to such a small market share. I can understand security precautions and there ARE ways to use Ebay and even Paypal safely. I hate both but they are vialble tools. I won't change the blade on my circular saw while it is plugged in or use it without safety glasses. Same can be true of paypal. Open a free checking accout with a debit card for use SOLEY with paypal. Activate the paypal account with that debit card and connect it to that bank account. Never leave money in there add it when you want to purchase something. Get the FREE paypal debit card (they give you cash back when you run it as a credit card - free money). Withdraw any leftover money immediately. Also there were a couple very reputable ebay sellers on the other threads. Nothing but good reviews. Never will you get that with ANY brick and mortar store.The random model is the only way we have at present to get a wide variety of very inexpensive minis that are prepainted and specificaly geared towards D&D. And a very viable and easy to use secondary market. Way to go WotC.</blockquote>

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