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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8572209">Don't worry, I didn't take your post that way. I just stated that for clarity because I know Discovery has been the subject of that conversation online. What I've heard from people I know who watch the show match what you say (and again, I just rewatched the first four or so seasons of the Next Generation last year and those get pretty political). I do think you are right that people used to begin with whether they liked the show or not, and if they didn't agree with the message it wasn't the end of things (I remember hearing a lot of people comment how much they liked a writer 'despite their crazy politics'). I don't know what has changed. I think part of is on the viewer side. I think part of it is the culture (these conversations are more omnipresent so the politics are on peoples minds constantly and a simple disagreement over a show can result in people unfriending one another, or stop talking to one another), and I think some shows simply reflect the changing culture (which you should expect), while other shows play more towards one audience or the other. When you go back and watch older media that is political (and a lot is), some of the things I have noticed is: it can date the material (but not always), if it is done poorly that is more apparent and glaring with time (and by poorly I mean too heavy handed or done in a way where the message might be a good one but it isn't coming from a well informed writer----they are relying on very simplistic arguments, etc. But it can also add a lot to the movie because: it really captures something that was in the air at the time and that gives it more power, it has some deep insight into the matter, etc. There should  be some politics in our media. And I want some media to be primary about politics. I just think things are better when it doesn't feel like that is the only thing going on. And, at least in terms of the conversation, it seems that that is the case when you read reviews (and I don't mean fringe reviews but mainstream reviews in papers and major online news outlets). And it seems like more and more movies rely on heavy political subtext too. And there isn't anything wrong with political subtext. Night of the Living Dead had political subtext. The movie Candyman had subtext. The Godfather had political subtext about America (and so did the Sopranos). None of that is bad on its own. It can be done well. The writing can be good. So I definitely say don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here. People shouldn't reject  film or show because it has political subtext.</blockquote>

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