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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5213044" data-attributes="member: 18280">I call 'em as I see 'em.Then use the uphill example, and assume that the other example was written with the purpose of clarifying (however much it may have failed to do so IYHO).&nbsp; That way, you are not compounding what you see to be a problem.No one is arguing this.I haven't overlooked it; it's irrelevent to the point.&nbsp; For example:No, because in this case I would not conflate my personal experience with the difficulty level offered.To put it in RPG terms (again), the DC is set, and my skill is a bonus I add to my die roll.&nbsp; If I can always take 10, I have a +10 bonus, and the DC is 20, I will always succeed.&nbsp; But it would be foolish of me to say that, because I was adding 10 + 10, the result was not 20.&nbsp; The DC exists regardless of my skill.In this case, if the DC for 1e was 15, and the DC for 4e was 20, I would still always succeed at both -- there would be no measurable difference for me -- but 4e would still be harder than 1e.Valuation is subjective.&nbsp; Perception of difficulty is subjective.&nbsp; Actual difficulty, in this case, is at least theoretically measurable.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5213044, member: 18280"] I call 'em as I see 'em. Then use the uphill example, and assume that the other example was written with the purpose of clarifying (however much it may have failed to do so IYHO). That way, you are not compounding what you see to be a problem. No one is arguing this. I haven't overlooked it; it's irrelevent to the point. For example: No, because in this case I would not conflate my personal experience with the difficulty level offered. To put it in RPG terms (again), the DC is set, and my skill is a bonus I add to my die roll. If I can always take 10, I have a +10 bonus, and the DC is 20, I will always succeed. But it would be foolish of me to say that, because I was adding 10 + 10, the result was not 20. The DC exists regardless of my skill. In this case, if the DC for 1e was 15, and the DC for 4e was 20, I would still always succeed at both -- there would be no measurable difference [I][B]for me[/B][/I] -- but 4e would still be harder than 1e. Valuation is subjective. Perception of difficulty is subjective. Actual difficulty, in this case, is at least theoretically measurable. RC [/QUOTE]

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