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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shazman" data-source="post: 5215905" data-attributes="member: 13509"><p>My experiences are similar to Stormonu's.  Earlier this year, I was playing in a Pathfinder campaign, and we could easily finish three fairly challenging encounters in one and a half to two hours.  That was with the DM coming up with the encounters on the spot, having 6 PC's, not using any computer programs or other "kludges", and included setting up the minis on the battlemat.  In my expereince, one similar combat in 4E could have easily taken the same time as those three combats in Pathfinder.  That pretty much says it all as far as length of combat between the two systems goes.  3.5/Pathfinder moves like lightning but does get noticeably slower at higher levels, while 4E starts at a snail's pace and continues to get even slower as levels increase.</p></blockquote><p></p>