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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fifth Element" data-source="post: 5153131" data-attributes="member: 48135">So you're looking for rules support for certain other things, as I take it.I think you're missing something about new challenges, though. Although, once you get in combat, it might appear to be just the same thing with bigger numbers, you have to get to the combat first.At 1st level, if you're going to clear out a cave of kobold bandits, that pretty much involves "we go to the kobold cave" in terms of challenge. The challenge is in the fight, not in getting there.At 30th level, if you're ultimately going to kill Orcus, you can't just say "we go to Orcus' cave". There's much more to the potential challenge than just the ultimate fight.</blockquote>