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<blockquote data-quote="Nightfly" data-source="post: 8689515" data-attributes="member: 89601">I hope I'm not derailing this thread by replying to this three days later, but this really struck a cord with me.I hear this all the time: if you want an &quot;old school&quot; feel, go play 1e or Basic (or a retroclone like OSRIC). But if what if you want an OSR feel, but don't want to go back to those nonsensical 1e saving throws? Or to wizards being useless dart-throwers at level one, and gaining levels at a snail's pace, but then turning into gods?&nbsp; I could go on, but I'm not trying to start another dumb edition war. You get my point: I want some old-school sensibility without losing all the improvements we've made in the game over the last 40-ish years. There's a lot that I miss from the D&amp;D of my youth in the early 80s, but there's also a lot that I never, ever want in my game again. So &quot;just use Old-School Essentials&quot; (or whatever) isn't necessarily the answer. It isn't for me, at least. Discussions like this one serve a purpose -- some of us love 5e, but want the threat of death to be a little more toothy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nightfly, post: 8689515, member: 89601"] I hope I'm not derailing this thread by replying to this three days later, but this really struck a cord with me. I hear this all the time: if you want an "old school" feel, go play 1e or Basic (or a retroclone like OSRIC). But if what if you want an OSR feel, but don't want to go back to those nonsensical 1e saving throws? Or to wizards being useless dart-throwers at level one, and gaining levels at a snail's pace, but then turning into gods? I could go on, but I'm not trying to start another dumb edition war. You get my point: I want some old-school sensibility without losing all the improvements we've made in the game over the last 40-ish years. There's a lot that I miss from the D&D of my youth in the early 80s, but there's also a lot that I never, ever want in my game again. So "just use Old-School Essentials" (or whatever) isn't necessarily the answer. It isn't for me, at least. Discussions like this one serve a purpose -- some of us love 5e, but want the threat of death to be a little more toothy. [/QUOTE]

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