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<blockquote data-quote="karolusb" data-source="post: 6362138" data-attributes="member: 83359">They had to include point buy for organized play purposes.&nbsp; I tend to agree that they seem to be skewing towards rolling with the official point buy (which I noted would not allow me to make some characters I had in various stages of the playtest).&nbsp; I find it strange though it is a backhanded boost to humans (in a world where you want a 16 or 18, being able to start with a 15 and add one or two is effectively the same).&nbsp; There is a weird seeming straw man argument in this thread that anyone who rerolls stats must reroll until they have multiple 18's, and honestly that is rarely my experience.&nbsp; I can also say that in my experience the people who are obsessed with 3d6 in order are not fun to play with.&nbsp; My funny roll story, 4d6 reroll 1's, gave it a few sets of stats and took the best to my GM (this was 2nd ed, so really good stats were amazing, and pretty good stats might as well have been straight 9's).&nbsp; He looks at my stats offended, picks up 4 dice rolls an 18, and tells me to write it down.&nbsp; The character I ended up playing must have had the best stats I have ever seen (well actually we had a hireling that was better, as you can imagine that GM's rolling was that good all the time, which mostly sucked for us), 3 stats of 17 or higher, nothing under a 13.&nbsp; Even with the generous rolling method it was pretty insane.&nbsp; For my rolls, pretty sure I had nothing over a 15 in a 6x6 grid of stats.&nbsp; Currently planning on GMing with 3d6 12 times, you can replace one roll with a 15 but only in your prime requisite.&nbsp; A tad on the generous side, though to date I have yet to see anyone need a reroll, or have stats that were disappointing or ridiculous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="karolusb, post: 6362138, member: 83359"] They had to include point buy for organized play purposes. I tend to agree that they seem to be skewing towards rolling with the official point buy (which I noted would not allow me to make some characters I had in various stages of the playtest). I find it strange though it is a backhanded boost to humans (in a world where you want a 16 or 18, being able to start with a 15 and add one or two is effectively the same). There is a weird seeming straw man argument in this thread that anyone who rerolls stats must reroll until they have multiple 18's, and honestly that is rarely my experience. I can also say that in my experience the people who are obsessed with 3d6 in order are not fun to play with. My funny roll story, 4d6 reroll 1's, gave it a few sets of stats and took the best to my GM (this was 2nd ed, so really good stats were amazing, and pretty good stats might as well have been straight 9's). He looks at my stats offended, picks up 4 dice rolls an 18, and tells me to write it down. The character I ended up playing must have had the best stats I have ever seen (well actually we had a hireling that was better, as you can imagine that GM's rolling was that good all the time, which mostly sucked for us), 3 stats of 17 or higher, nothing under a 13. Even with the generous rolling method it was pretty insane. For my rolls, pretty sure I had nothing over a 15 in a 6x6 grid of stats. Currently planning on GMing with 3d6 12 times, you can replace one roll with a 15 but only in your prime requisite. A tad on the generous side, though to date I have yet to see anyone need a reroll, or have stats that were disappointing or ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

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