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Why no Clr/Rog PrC?
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<blockquote data-quote="Liquidsabre" data-source="post: 1656333" data-attributes="member: 15635"><p>That would be because the Mystic Theurge & Eldritch Knight receive absolutely no special abilities in their PrC beyond spell-casting progression. Black Flame Zealot PrC does. As has been stated, cleric's don't necessarily need the full-casting progression as the arcane casters so desperately need. All you need are a few key spells, Practised Spell-Caster feat would be nice too, for the proper buffs to make a rather more survivable sneak-attacking rogue in melee. A rather nasty combination especially if they get a chance to buff and sneak up on their targets as the asssassin they are would do, not bad at all, and a PrC I wouldn't dismiss too easily. Though it doesn't fit the nice versatile-adventurer cler/rog that most might envision. Though what PrCs are somehow suppose to provide a more versitile build, I haven't the foggiest... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I'm sure this has been said before but, there's nothing wrong with just tweaking the arcane trcikster into a divien trickster with all the same abilities and just altering some of the prereqs to match that of a divine-caster. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe this had something to do with the PrC being too good though lol...again, what's wrong with just tweaking the Arcane Trickster and using that?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mid-levels I can see this particular mutli-class being useful but possibly beginning to run into problems, especially in only a 4-person party. </p><p></p><p>I don't think it was an oversight, mostly it was a niche character-type not in high demand or seen often enough to maerit consideration just yet. You're probably right about the final complete book, where we'll probably see 1 other PrC for the multi-class emerge. How many Cleric/Bard PrCs are there? Or why not more Cleric/Wizard PrCs (just one!?)? Why can't we have an appropriate PrC for a nature priest (i.e. Cleric/Druid multi-class!?!). I wouldn't go over board on this one, you could argue lot's of PrCs are ignoring possible multi-classes going this route. IOW, not too big a deal, but fun to come up with your own stuffs for a homebrew setting where such multi-classes are more common, cool.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Liquidsabre, post: 1656333, member: 15635"] That would be because the Mystic Theurge & Eldritch Knight receive absolutely no special abilities in their PrC beyond spell-casting progression. Black Flame Zealot PrC does. As has been stated, cleric's don't necessarily need the full-casting progression as the arcane casters so desperately need. All you need are a few key spells, Practised Spell-Caster feat would be nice too, for the proper buffs to make a rather more survivable sneak-attacking rogue in melee. A rather nasty combination especially if they get a chance to buff and sneak up on their targets as the asssassin they are would do, not bad at all, and a PrC I wouldn't dismiss too easily. Though it doesn't fit the nice versatile-adventurer cler/rog that most might envision. Though what PrCs are somehow suppose to provide a more versitile build, I haven't the foggiest... ;) I'm sure this has been said before but, there's nothing wrong with just tweaking the arcane trcikster into a divien trickster with all the same abilities and just altering some of the prereqs to match that of a divine-caster. I believe this had something to do with the PrC being too good though lol...again, what's wrong with just tweaking the Arcane Trickster and using that? Mid-levels I can see this particular mutli-class being useful but possibly beginning to run into problems, especially in only a 4-person party. I don't think it was an oversight, mostly it was a niche character-type not in high demand or seen often enough to maerit consideration just yet. You're probably right about the final complete book, where we'll probably see 1 other PrC for the multi-class emerge. How many Cleric/Bard PrCs are there? Or why not more Cleric/Wizard PrCs (just one!?)? Why can't we have an appropriate PrC for a nature priest (i.e. Cleric/Druid multi-class!?!). I wouldn't go over board on this one, you could argue lot's of PrCs are ignoring possible multi-classes going this route. IOW, not too big a deal, but fun to come up with your own stuffs for a homebrew setting where such multi-classes are more common, cool. [/QUOTE]
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