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<blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 4687924" data-attributes="member: 54707">Someone can look it up if they tivoed it but I don't think anyone told Locke he had to kill himself.Christian actually said, I think, &quot;you have to die.&quot;And that is a clue about how Locke died. And in what manner and by whom. True, I suspected that Ben would talk John into an attempt at suicide, or maybe an attempt around it. From the previews last week.But I'm not sure Hawking was the trigger for what Ben did. That is that her name was the motivation for killing Locke. And I'm not sure at all that he resents Locke. The single instances in which I have noticed Ben appear to speak to the truth is to the Dead. If that is true, and he does speak truth to the dead then he will miss Locke. Then again if he does not speak truth to the dead, and speaks to them in the same way as the living then he will not miss Locke because he knows it wasn't the last time he would see him.Like I said last week this would be all about the beginning of &quot;resurrections.&quot; Including I suspect eventually far more than John's resurrection.The question is, does Ben already anticipate this?And does it color his actions?That is an interesting set of analyses.Abaddon by the way is Greek for place of destruction or the terror or beast of of hell.Names mean a lot in this series. Locke, Bentham, Sayid, Abaddon, and so forth.Hawking obviously knows Ben.So, it is possible Hawking and Ben are working together, Hawking and Ben are working at cross purposes, or Hawking is unaware of Ben's true motivations, and maybe vice versa.That is also an interesting and excellent analysis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack7, post: 4687924, member: 54707"] Someone can look it up if they tivoed it but I don't think anyone told Locke he had to kill himself. Christian actually said, I think, "you have to die." And that is a clue about how Locke died. And in what manner and by whom. True, I suspected that Ben would talk John into an attempt at suicide, or maybe an attempt around it. From the previews last week. But I'm not sure Hawking was the trigger for what Ben did. That is that her name was the motivation for killing Locke. And I'm not sure at all that he resents Locke. The single instances in which I have noticed Ben appear to speak to the truth is to the Dead. If that is true, and he does speak truth to the dead then he will miss Locke. Then again if he does not speak truth to the dead, and speaks to them in the same way as the living then he will not miss Locke because he knows it wasn't the last time he would see him. Like I said last week this would be all about the beginning of "resurrections." Including I suspect eventually far more than John's resurrection. The question is, does Ben already anticipate this? And does it color his actions? That is an interesting set of analyses. Abaddon by the way is Greek for place of destruction or the terror or beast of of hell. Names mean a lot in this series. Locke, Bentham, Sayid, Abaddon, and so forth. Hawking obviously knows Ben. So, it is possible Hawking and Ben are working together, Hawking and Ben are working at cross purposes, or Hawking is unaware of Ben's true motivations, and maybe vice versa. That is also an interesting and excellent analysis. [/QUOTE]

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