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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 4797250" data-attributes="member: 1">Where are people getting this &quot;Esau/Smokey/New Locke&quot; stuff from? have I missed something? People seem to be discussing it as though it were obvious and a definite fact, but I don't recall seeing anything to confirm it.&nbsp;- I recall the Jacob/Esau bibilical story. I recall at the start of the episode jacob was on the beach with someone else who said he'd kill him when he found a loophole, and that the fake Locke confirmed to Jacob that he'd found said loophole (not that I understand what loophole he found), which indicates fake Locke is the same guy who sat on the beach with Jacob.&nbsp;- I don't, however, recall him being referred to as &quot;Esau&quot; (did I just miss it?), or that he was the smoke monster.&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there more to that conclusion than one of them just happening to be called &quot;Jacob&quot;?&nbsp;Problem with the show is that it's so convoluted and changeable, and with so many random scheduling gaps, that I lose track of what's going on. &nbsp;- Does &quot;Ricardus&quot; mean anything, or is just an indication that Richard's old?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 4797250, member: 1"] Where are people getting this "Esau/Smokey/New Locke" stuff from? have I missed something? People seem to be discussing it as though it were obvious and a definite fact, but I don't recall seeing anything to confirm it. - I recall the Jacob/Esau bibilical story. I recall at the start of the episode jacob was on the beach with someone else who said he'd kill him when he found a loophole, and that the fake Locke confirmed to Jacob that he'd found said loophole (not that I understand what loophole he found), which indicates fake Locke is the same guy who sat on the beach with Jacob. - I don't, however, recall him being referred to as "Esau" (did I just miss it?), or that he was the smoke monster. Is there more to that conclusion than one of them just happening to be called "Jacob"? Problem with the show is that it's so convoluted and changeable, and with so many random scheduling gaps, that I lose track of what's going on. - Does "Ricardus" mean anything, or is just an indication that Richard's old? [/QUOTE]

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