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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1566815" data-attributes="member: 13916">How is this thread stil going ?(Worryingly I think I agree with hong... Im scared)" A spell whose casting time is more than 1 full round action cannot be quickened."Spells whose casting time is more than afull round action cant be quickened.. by anyone.Interestingly it says spells whos casting time is greater than, not greater than or equal to. By the RAW a wizard can quicken summon mosnter but not, say permanency. It also does not forbid quickening a spell with metamagic already applied to it, unless the spell already took more than a full action to cast.The casting time is in the "casting time" entry under the spell description, BEFORE any metamagic feats are applied. "Special: This feat can’t be applied to any spell cast spontaneously ...  since applying a metamagic feat to a spontaneously cast spell automatically increases the casting time to a full-round action."In addition to the above Spontaineous casters never gain benefits from quicking their spontaineous spells because it take a full-round action to apply the metamagic. Thus a quickened spontaineous spell still normally takes on full round action  to cast. The exceptions to this are spells with longer casting time, these spells take an extra full-round action to cast the metamagic spellMajere</blockquote>