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<blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 5986007" data-attributes="member: 40233">I don't particularly care for the monk class because of what it says about it the world and the other characters in it.&nbsp; After all, if it's possible with enough training, to slay dragons with your bare hands, what does that imply about the poor loser who needs a longsword and plate mail to do it?&nbsp; Likewise, in order to carve out a niche for monks as preeminent unarmed combatants, in most versions, designers have made all the other martial classes incompetent when you take their toys away from them.As such, I would definitely prefer the monk to go away, and unarmed combat to be something that the fighter class (as well as the inevitable barbarian, ranger and other combatant classes) are proficient in by design.&nbsp; As for the mystical parts (including being able to match an equally skilled armed opponent while weaponless) I'd prefer that be held part of a &quot;wuxia&quot; module that modifies all classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salamandyr, post: 5986007, member: 40233"] I don't particularly care for the monk class because of what it says about it the world and the other characters in it. After all, if it's possible with enough training, to slay dragons with your bare hands, what does that imply about the poor loser who needs a longsword and plate mail to do it? Likewise, in order to carve out a niche for monks as preeminent unarmed combatants, in most versions, designers have made all the other martial classes incompetent when you take their toys away from them. As such, I would definitely prefer the monk to go away, and unarmed combat to be something that the fighter class (as well as the inevitable barbarian, ranger and other combatant classes) are proficient in by design. As for the mystical parts (including being able to match an equally skilled armed opponent while weaponless) I'd prefer that be held part of a "wuxia" module that modifies all classes. [/QUOTE]

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