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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3869202" data-attributes="member: 2268">I'm not a medical expert, but I simply assume that using a razorsharp steel blade to carve a 2-4'' deep groove into the throat of somebody from &quot;one ear to the other&quot;, as they say, on a paralyzed person will kill that person pretty much immediately. The same goes for a steel blade through the eye to the brain, a well-placed stab through the heart, or any other nasty ideas players tend to have when they haven't yet been trained to think in hit points and damage rolls.Of course, an axe through the skull works just as nicely.Hold Person isn't broken by coup de grace, it simply enables it. There is something broken if players coup de grace every opponent they happen upon and manage to render helpless, but I'm pretty sure it's not the fact that a helpless opponent can be insta-killed.Just please, don't start to argue for a reduction of this mechanic to hit point damage as well. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> I'd hate to read &quot;A coup de grace is a critical hit with a multiplier of x100&quot; or something in the 4E PHB at some point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3869202, member: 2268"] I'm not a medical expert, but I simply [b]assume[/b] that using a razorsharp steel blade to carve a 2-4'' deep groove into the throat of somebody from "one ear to the other", as they say, on a paralyzed person will kill that person pretty much immediately. The same goes for a steel blade through the eye to the brain, a well-placed stab through the heart, or any other nasty ideas players tend to have when they haven't yet been trained to think in hit points and damage rolls. Of course, an axe through the skull works just as nicely. [i]Hold Person[/i] isn't broken by coup de grace, it simply enables it. There is something broken if players coup de grace every opponent they happen upon and manage to render helpless, but I'm pretty sure it's not the fact that a helpless opponent can be insta-killed. Just please, don't start to argue for a reduction of this mechanic to hit point damage as well. :lol: I'd hate to read "A coup de grace is a critical hit with a multiplier of x100" or something in the 4E PHB at some point. [/QUOTE]

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