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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 3884303" data-attributes="member: 704">The thing is, if someone is rendered unable to flee and unable to resist an attack, he is probably going to be very dead very soon anyway.&nbsp; The good thing about Coup De Grace is it basically cuts to the chase.How often have you had an NPC hit by a Hold Person or even a Hideous Laughter survive a fight anyway?&nbsp; Unless the spell is dispelled (or in the case of Hold Person, a subsequent save is made), They are going to die except in the most unusual of circumstances.If you made Coup de Grace Auto Crit, the target is probably still going to eat a full on Power Attack or (or Sneak attacks assuming you extend the auto-crit to include sneak attack).&nbsp; In 3rd Edition terms, how many such hits can most of your monsters sustain?In most cases, Coup De Grace is used to finish a fight that is already over for all intents and purposes.&nbsp; It is very rare for it to be used in the middle of an active melee.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 3884303, member: 704"] The thing is, if someone is rendered unable to flee and unable to resist an attack, he is probably going to be very dead very soon anyway. The good thing about Coup De Grace is it basically cuts to the chase. How often have you had an NPC hit by a Hold Person or even a Hideous Laughter survive a fight anyway? Unless the spell is dispelled (or in the case of Hold Person, a subsequent save is made), They are going to die except in the most unusual of circumstances. If you made Coup de Grace Auto Crit, the target is probably still going to eat a full on Power Attack or (or Sneak attacks assuming you extend the auto-crit to include sneak attack). In 3rd Edition terms, how many such hits can most of your monsters sustain? In most cases, Coup De Grace is used to finish a fight that is already over for all intents and purposes. It is very rare for it to be used in the middle of an active melee. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]

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