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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3884479" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Without intending to be snarky or sarcastic, you're hoping for an ideal situation here. No rule works for every imaginable situation it can be used in for everybody and under every circumstance. There will always be exceptions where you get oddball results. There's a whole player tradition of &quot;game breaking&quot; that is based on that one simple fact. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> I mean, even in your situation, place one of your allies 5' closer to you, and he could have tried to prevent the coup de grace with an attack of opportunity in the form of a grapple or a trip attack or something similar. That's also why you won't see coups de grace in melee that often. It leaves the couping character wide open for any kind of preventive AoO from allies of the victim-to-be.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3884479, member: 2268"] Without intending to be snarky or sarcastic, you're hoping for an ideal situation here. No rule works for every imaginable situation it can be used in for everybody and under every circumstance. There will always be exceptions where you get oddball results. There's a whole player tradition of "game breaking" that is based on that one simple fact. :lol: I mean, even in your situation, place one of your allies 5' closer to you, and he could have tried to prevent the coup de grace with an attack of opportunity in the form of a grapple or a trip attack or something similar. That's also why you won't see coups de grace in melee that often. It leaves the couping character wide open for any kind of preventive AoO from allies of the victim-to-be. [/QUOTE]

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