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<blockquote data-quote="EUBanana" data-source="post: 5731975" data-attributes="member: 6676815"><p>A monk can get a friendly mage to cast Mage Armour on him for nothing, and that stacks with all the monk AC bonuses they get which rogues do not, at the levels in which a rogues leather armour might give the rogue a meaningful advantage.</p><p></p><p>A monk can buy potions of mage armour if there are no friendly mages, the cost of them is nominal after a couple of levels, or use a wand of mage armour.</p><p></p><p>At higher levels the rogue can have a belt of dex and magic armour, but a monk can have a belt of dex <em>and</em> a headband of wisdom, so the MAD thing is a misnomer there as well. It's actually a benefit, letting the monk pump two stats instead of one, which is cheaper, always cheaper. Two +2 items instead of one +4 item = cheaper. The money saved goes on the bracers, which are better than leather armour anyway because leather armour doesn't work on touch attacks, which seem to be fairly common to me.</p><p></p><p>UC's style feats are quite powerful too and clearly aimed at monks. Crane style is my fave, letting one melee weapon attack a round be ignored, thats solid, and it would be difficult for a rogue to get that. The fighting defensively is good too. A monk who opted for crane style as his build would easily have the highest AC in the party at level 1 with mage armour I think, and assuming you've got high strength, his attacks would still be respectable for his level.</p><p></p><p>As for moving around, carry throwing stars and use as necessary, it always gives you the option at least. The damage dice is less relevant than your strength bonus. When moving an attacking go for a maneuver rather than a single punch, and then flurry them next round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EUBanana, post: 5731975, member: 6676815"] A monk can get a friendly mage to cast Mage Armour on him for nothing, and that stacks with all the monk AC bonuses they get which rogues do not, at the levels in which a rogues leather armour might give the rogue a meaningful advantage. A monk can buy potions of mage armour if there are no friendly mages, the cost of them is nominal after a couple of levels, or use a wand of mage armour. At higher levels the rogue can have a belt of dex and magic armour, but a monk can have a belt of dex [i]and[/i] a headband of wisdom, so the MAD thing is a misnomer there as well. It's actually a benefit, letting the monk pump two stats instead of one, which is cheaper, always cheaper. Two +2 items instead of one +4 item = cheaper. The money saved goes on the bracers, which are better than leather armour anyway because leather armour doesn't work on touch attacks, which seem to be fairly common to me. UC's style feats are quite powerful too and clearly aimed at monks. Crane style is my fave, letting one melee weapon attack a round be ignored, thats solid, and it would be difficult for a rogue to get that. The fighting defensively is good too. A monk who opted for crane style as his build would easily have the highest AC in the party at level 1 with mage armour I think, and assuming you've got high strength, his attacks would still be respectable for his level. As for moving around, carry throwing stars and use as necessary, it always gives you the option at least. The damage dice is less relevant than your strength bonus. When moving an attacking go for a maneuver rather than a single punch, and then flurry them next round. [/QUOTE]
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