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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7592567" data-attributes="member: 20564">If you're getting a small effect, you're probably not boosting your CHR to get good DCs.Just look at the 1st level Smites:1st level Thunderous Smite does 2 HP less than Divine Smite on average, but also forces a STR save or knocks back and prone.  All your melee allies getting advantage until it's turn?  Big effect.1st level Wrathful Smite.  Does 5.5 less points on average which is a big deal - for the chance to Frighten them.  Disadvantage on attacks, ability checks, and can't move closer to you.  And they don't even get saves normally, they have to spend an action to even try to make a save.</blockquote>