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Why PCs should be competent, or "I got a lot of past in my past"
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<blockquote data-quote="GrimCo" data-source="post: 9264836" data-attributes="member: 7044462"><p>I would say that's cause D&D tends to go for that "Zero to Hero" trope. To be honest, although i didn't try bunch of game systems, most of them that i did try, starting characters aren't really that experienced. And those that let you start really competent in some areas, FE WoD if you start with 3-4 dots and specialization in skill, it's hard to get better trough the game at those things that you already start very good at. It just costs too much for marginal benefit. So if you start with 4 dots in Computers, to raise it to 5, it costs 15xp points + 3xp for new specialty. 18xp is couple of sessions worth of exp.</p><p></p><p>In classed systems, where class=job, competence level=levels in your class.</p><p></p><p>And to be honest, i do think that lv1 PC are competent enough. I'll use real world analogy. Background in engineering is like having bacc degree in engineering, but no work experience. LV1 engineer would be someone with around 1 year of work experience. That's somebody in their early to mid 20s, they do have enough past in their past, but not all from that past is relevant to their job, lots of it is based on social interactions, connections with other people etc. They are competent enough to work unsupervised, you can count on them to do task appropriate to their experience level successfully on day to day basis. I also expect them to fail sometimes if they need to do it under stressful conditions ( short deadlines, multiple tasks that need to be handled simultaneously, bad communication inside the project team etc). On the other hand, even very experienced engineers fail sometimes at complex problems under stressful conditions.</p><p></p><p>If you don't want to play fresh out of academy character, then you need to start at higher level. It's that simple. I'm not familiar with you example, sorry. LV 5 is good place to start with if you want to play decently experienced and established character in D&D. Or maybe try classless system like GURPS or WoD.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GrimCo, post: 9264836, member: 7044462"] I would say that's cause D&D tends to go for that "Zero to Hero" trope. To be honest, although i didn't try bunch of game systems, most of them that i did try, starting characters aren't really that experienced. And those that let you start really competent in some areas, FE WoD if you start with 3-4 dots and specialization in skill, it's hard to get better trough the game at those things that you already start very good at. It just costs too much for marginal benefit. So if you start with 4 dots in Computers, to raise it to 5, it costs 15xp points + 3xp for new specialty. 18xp is couple of sessions worth of exp. In classed systems, where class=job, competence level=levels in your class. And to be honest, i do think that lv1 PC are competent enough. I'll use real world analogy. Background in engineering is like having bacc degree in engineering, but no work experience. LV1 engineer would be someone with around 1 year of work experience. That's somebody in their early to mid 20s, they do have enough past in their past, but not all from that past is relevant to their job, lots of it is based on social interactions, connections with other people etc. They are competent enough to work unsupervised, you can count on them to do task appropriate to their experience level successfully on day to day basis. I also expect them to fail sometimes if they need to do it under stressful conditions ( short deadlines, multiple tasks that need to be handled simultaneously, bad communication inside the project team etc). On the other hand, even very experienced engineers fail sometimes at complex problems under stressful conditions. If you don't want to play fresh out of academy character, then you need to start at higher level. It's that simple. I'm not familiar with you example, sorry. LV 5 is good place to start with if you want to play decently experienced and established character in D&D. Or maybe try classless system like GURPS or WoD. [/QUOTE]
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