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<blockquote data-quote="Flexor the Mighty!" data-source="post: 7288133" data-attributes="member: 1013">In chess the punishment is that you lost. You start over, your foe razzes you and tells you to step it up next time.&nbsp; Same with a campaign that ends with a TPK, roll up new PC and start a new one!I don't judge my games by the standards I do novels or movies, fundamentally different activities.&nbsp; Plenty of PC deaths have been memorable for one reason or another.&nbsp; And the story that the game created when they discussed it after the session was still interesting, even when it was a death via random encounter or trap.And I'd have to say I totally disagree with the last line, you should be able to die by bad choices and bad luck.&nbsp; But in 5e past 5th level or so other than a TPK there is little risk of any permanent death IME.&nbsp; Part of the reason I'm switching systems but different strokes and all that.&nbsp; I guess its the game first or story first question, a question as old as the hills.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flexor the Mighty!, post: 7288133, member: 1013"] In chess the punishment is that you lost. You start over, your foe razzes you and tells you to step it up next time. Same with a campaign that ends with a TPK, roll up new PC and start a new one! I don't judge my games by the standards I do novels or movies, fundamentally different activities. Plenty of PC deaths have been memorable for one reason or another. And the story that the game created when they discussed it after the session was still interesting, even when it was a death via random encounter or trap. And I'd have to say I totally disagree with the last line, you should be able to die by bad choices and bad luck. But in 5e past 5th level or so other than a TPK there is little risk of any permanent death IME. Part of the reason I'm switching systems but different strokes and all that. I guess its the game first or story first question, a question as old as the hills. [/QUOTE]

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