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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7288996" data-attributes="member: 15700">What you're doing is refusing to believe something that is widespread and universally accepted among the people who are experts in this topic because you personally haven't seen it.&nbsp; That's like arguing the world is flat because you personally have never seen the curvature of the earth.&nbsp; I'm not asking you to believe me personally, I'm saying this is proven fact by experts in the field of human behavior.&nbsp; Even if you haven't seen it yourself, you should be able to make a conclusive statement just like you should be able to make a conclusive statement that the earth is a globe despite you never actually traveling around it in space.So to argue against someone and say they are wrong (what you did to Caliban) in spite of the overwhelming evidence is just silly.&nbsp; What you're arguing is that penalties for death won't change behavior because you haven't seen it personally, and have not give any reasoned objective argument why it would be exempt from every other context of risk v reward that drives human behavior in literally every other context.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7288996, member: 15700"] What you're doing is refusing to believe something that is widespread and universally accepted among the people who are experts in this topic because you personally haven't seen it. That's like arguing the world is flat because you personally have never seen the curvature of the earth. I'm not asking you to believe me personally, I'm saying this is proven fact by experts in the field of human behavior. Even if you haven't seen it yourself, you should be able to make a conclusive statement just like you should be able to make a conclusive statement that the earth is a globe despite you never actually traveling around it in space. So to argue against someone and say they are wrong (what you did to Caliban) in spite of the overwhelming evidence is just silly. What you're arguing is that penalties for death won't change behavior because you haven't seen it personally, and have not give any reasoned objective argument why it would be exempt from every other context of risk v reward that drives human behavior in literally every other context. [/QUOTE]

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