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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1888513" data-attributes="member: 3146">No I wouldn't. These days, I'd say that, past clvl 7, Scorching Ray is probably the king of damage spells and Icy Burst is the king of area effect damage spells. (Maybe I'm undervaluing range here but I think area is more significant. As I said before, I've only seen a few combats in the last year of playing D&D where range was a significant issue and since some of the best non damaging conjuration spells (glitterdust, web, etc) have more than close range, it's not like all of the CA conjurer's spells are short range--just all of his worthwhile (and that excludes acid arrow) direct damage attack spells).In general I also find that ranged touch attacks are better than saving throws (even for half) too. Then again, I'm a huge fan of point blank and precise shot for wizards. Even without Point Blank Shot, the wizard has a 65% chance of dealing full damage if he just moves to a point where there's no cover between him and the troll. With precise shot and in point blank range, that's a 90% chance. Compare that to the chance of the troll failing the saving throw (assuming a 21 int and greater spell focus, there's still something like a 25% chance of the troll saving).In any event, not allowing SR is a HUGE advantage. SR will typically knock a spell down to 60-70% effectiveness before any saves or touch attacks are even considered. What's more, CA spells come in all varieties, while (absent feats), evocation damage is pretty much exclusively fire, electricity, and cold with a few decidedly substandard sonic spells. The ability to prep a force orb or a sonic orb is a massive advantage.</blockquote>

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