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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 6365575" data-attributes="member: 3586">True.Although true, I don't think it comes up that much.This seems wrong to me: Fighters start with Chain Mail + Shield. AC 18. Barbarians can't wear chain-mail. If they're buying armour, Barbarians have the least starting money except for monks - their starting package doesn't even have armour! Hide+shield would give them AC 16 - the same as unarmoured. (Assuming Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14).At higher levels, fighters will probably keep 1-2 points above the barbarian in armour.A dueling fighter gets the extra damage all the time. The half damage (from weapons only, btw) is really nice, though. It sort of makes up for the poor AC - which is made even worse by Reckless Attack. Of course, the fighter might just go for extra AC instead of damage, or go for that +2 to hit with archery.Only at low-mid levels? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (Yes, it's likely to be all the time!)This feature kicks in at 9th level. It adds one extra die of damage. Meanwhile, the "basic" fighter has been gaining 19-20 criticals from 3rd level. You've now twice said that they apply at the same levels: they don't. Have a look again - the Champion gains improved critical at 3rd level.Also Second Wind 1/rest and Action Surge 1/rest. Which can be pretty significant.Part of the trick is that there isn't one fighter - or even three - there are a lot of them, depending on which fighting style you follow and which martial archetype you select. Being skilled in archery - which is +2 to attack - is a fair way from what the Barbarian does. A human fighter at first level can take the Two-Weapon Fighting style and the Dual Wielder feat and be attacking twice a turn at +5 (1d8+3) with both attacks and a AC of 17 in chainmail - with no Dex bonus to speak of!Your first level human barbarian is +5 (1d12+5) when raging, and a AC of 14. I'm not sure which feat they'd take.Cheers!</blockquote>

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