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<blockquote data-quote="med stud" data-source="post: 198594" data-attributes="member: 1211">Just in defense of the ranger spell list; it doesnt take more than one good spell per spell level for a spell list to be usable. For Ranger, I would say:Spell level 1Entangle (One of the best lvl 1 spells in the game outdoors)Animal friendship (Get scouts and (granted weak) combat helpersSpell level 2Cure light woundsProtection from elements (This one is great in almost any adventure)Snare (actually usable in many encounters; maybe not that great, though)Spell level 3This level is not so great. But two utility spells is there, which might be good from time to time:Neutralize poisonRemove diseaseSpell level 4Polymorph self (the be all end all of ranger spells; this one makes the ranger a killer)Freedom of movement (good vs hold and webs and stuff)Tree stride (Poor man's teleport; a high level ranger with this spell can transverse huge distances in less then an hour).Cure serious wounds (Cant really compete with the big spells on the list, but is worth mentioning)Nondetection (may have it's uses from time to time)The spells above does almost always have a place in an adventure, if not for anything else, they unburden the cleric. And they defenitly is one of the best spell lists for adventuring alone and be one of the most dangerous opponents in a wilderness environment.And on another notion: When playing a ranger, it is almost always better to not use two weapon fighting then to use it. A lot of weak rangers are weak because they use double short sword combos or something like that when it would be superior to use a great sword.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="med stud, post: 198594, member: 1211"] Just in defense of the ranger spell list; it doesnt take more than one good spell per spell level for a spell list to be usable. For Ranger, I would say: Spell level 1 Entangle (One of the best lvl 1 spells in the game outdoors) Animal friendship (Get scouts and (granted weak) combat helpers Spell level 2 Cure light wounds Protection from elements (This one is great in almost any adventure) Snare (actually usable in many encounters; maybe not that great, though) Spell level 3 This level is not so great. But two utility spells is there, which might be good from time to time: Neutralize poison Remove disease Spell level 4 Polymorph self (the be all end all of ranger spells; this one makes the ranger a killer) Freedom of movement (good vs hold and webs and stuff) Tree stride (Poor man's teleport; a high level ranger with this spell can transverse huge distances in less then an hour). Cure serious wounds (Cant really compete with the big spells on the list, but is worth mentioning) Nondetection (may have it's uses from time to time) The spells above does almost always have a place in an adventure, if not for anything else, they unburden the cleric. And they defenitly is one of the best spell lists for adventuring alone and be one of the most dangerous opponents in a wilderness environment. And on another notion: When playing a ranger, it is almost always better to [I]not[/I] use two weapon fighting then to use it. A lot of weak rangers are weak because they use double short sword combos or something like that when it would be superior to use a great sword. [/QUOTE]

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