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<blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 5381591" data-attributes="member: 167"><p>Well, WoW isn't really fun. I work seasonal jobs and wow is my unimployment time focus thing, so I don't loose my ability to concentrate into boring repeat things.</p><p></p><p>Wow and other games like it used to be occasinally fun for me, but that was few years back, now they just are feel like neverending grinds.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I might have few fun moments now and then , but they are short lived.</p><p></p><p>Roleplaying isnt always fun either. Sometimes it plain sucks, even with good group. Sometimes people my life are so full of other RL worries they can't get their imagination flowing and I can blame very same on me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But when roleplaying games are fun, they are really fun. Computer game "fun" leaves me stressed, empty and drained, and sometimes with obsessive need to complite some pointless game-related task. </p><p></p><p>Not true for all computer games though, single play games with actual ending points can be fun. I enjoyed Dragon Age for example quite a lot. </p><p></p><p>Roleplaying games are fun because they dont' have some forced achieviment things. And you don't have to stare at screen all the time. And kill your elbow with constant mouse clicks. And have to take "crap" from group, since games like WoW are highly success focused. I am not even target of that crap, but it pisses me off when pople bother to whine about it to someone. In somewhere irrelevant like random heroic. You can use your imagination with roleplaying games. There you can't even do experimental character builds because they do crappy dps/heal/tank not so well. Your freedom even with your character is super-limited if you play social.</p><p></p><p>Oh yes and in roleplaying games you can choose your friends, I mean really. In MMO there is no escape from retards or just retardy moments which people in MM0 get lot easily.</p><p></p><p>I feel much more relaxed and happy when I play roleplaying games. With people I really want to hang with. </p><p></p><p>Computer games are ok, if you have free time and you don't have anything better to do, or that happens to be my best thing to do at moment. I would play much more tabletop rpg:s if I actually could get group together more often than week to two-weeks. </p><p></p><p>PvP in computer games is really disappointing unless you are into competive sport events (like arena and starcraft, I prefer starcraft). Then there are Battlegroud grinds, dueling (outside major cities at Wow) and ganking. If you try real world pvp server goes into major lag. You can barely do 40 man (max instance raid size) groupia and lag starts to happen.</p><p></p><p>Warhammer does pvp best, but it's quite grindy as well. More fun though IMO, but whatever rocks your boat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And what is most important you can always play computer games, and if you miss them for few years you just find they are more pretty and more evolved. Whence if you take long breaks at tabletop rpg:s you might never get back, people get older, more lazy, more busy. Since they still are IMO far better entertaiment, at least potentially, you should enjoy them while you can.</p><p></p><p>Maybe one day computer games get better.... nah.</p><p></p><p>But I really would like to steal combat rutinies from some computer game. I make my choices and then I can watch fight on screen, turn based prolly.</p><p></p><p>I always wanted to marry old final fantasy tactics combat map and roleplaying. I find figuers clungy, nice to play with but totally inpractical in house with cats. </p><p>FFT is oldie and goldie, and I would surely take newer combat systems too.</p><p></p><p>Why oh, why nobody make that kinda program. Demand would be very easy to use, good appearance editing features and neat flashy combat effects. Those who don't want to see numbers could of course turn them off. I love seeing them, very rewarding in fake but funny way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As to another thing, this new exp system in enworld remains me a bit about elite achievement system married to facebook y-I-am-your-friend. Maybe I am bitter, lol, since I never gonna be popular in internet. Mmh remains me of that youtube song "I wanna be internet celebrity".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelda Themelin, post: 5381591, member: 167"] Well, WoW isn't really fun. I work seasonal jobs and wow is my unimployment time focus thing, so I don't loose my ability to concentrate into boring repeat things. Wow and other games like it used to be occasinally fun for me, but that was few years back, now they just are feel like neverending grinds. I might have few fun moments now and then , but they are short lived. Roleplaying isnt always fun either. Sometimes it plain sucks, even with good group. Sometimes people my life are so full of other RL worries they can't get their imagination flowing and I can blame very same on me. But when roleplaying games are fun, they are really fun. Computer game "fun" leaves me stressed, empty and drained, and sometimes with obsessive need to complite some pointless game-related task. Not true for all computer games though, single play games with actual ending points can be fun. I enjoyed Dragon Age for example quite a lot. Roleplaying games are fun because they dont' have some forced achieviment things. And you don't have to stare at screen all the time. And kill your elbow with constant mouse clicks. And have to take "crap" from group, since games like WoW are highly success focused. I am not even target of that crap, but it pisses me off when pople bother to whine about it to someone. In somewhere irrelevant like random heroic. You can use your imagination with roleplaying games. There you can't even do experimental character builds because they do crappy dps/heal/tank not so well. Your freedom even with your character is super-limited if you play social. Oh yes and in roleplaying games you can choose your friends, I mean really. In MMO there is no escape from retards or just retardy moments which people in MM0 get lot easily. I feel much more relaxed and happy when I play roleplaying games. With people I really want to hang with. Computer games are ok, if you have free time and you don't have anything better to do, or that happens to be my best thing to do at moment. I would play much more tabletop rpg:s if I actually could get group together more often than week to two-weeks. PvP in computer games is really disappointing unless you are into competive sport events (like arena and starcraft, I prefer starcraft). Then there are Battlegroud grinds, dueling (outside major cities at Wow) and ganking. If you try real world pvp server goes into major lag. You can barely do 40 man (max instance raid size) groupia and lag starts to happen. Warhammer does pvp best, but it's quite grindy as well. More fun though IMO, but whatever rocks your boat. And what is most important you can always play computer games, and if you miss them for few years you just find they are more pretty and more evolved. Whence if you take long breaks at tabletop rpg:s you might never get back, people get older, more lazy, more busy. Since they still are IMO far better entertaiment, at least potentially, you should enjoy them while you can. Maybe one day computer games get better.... nah. But I really would like to steal combat rutinies from some computer game. I make my choices and then I can watch fight on screen, turn based prolly. I always wanted to marry old final fantasy tactics combat map and roleplaying. I find figuers clungy, nice to play with but totally inpractical in house with cats. FFT is oldie and goldie, and I would surely take newer combat systems too. Why oh, why nobody make that kinda program. Demand would be very easy to use, good appearance editing features and neat flashy combat effects. Those who don't want to see numbers could of course turn them off. I love seeing them, very rewarding in fake but funny way. As to another thing, this new exp system in enworld remains me a bit about elite achievement system married to facebook y-I-am-your-friend. Maybe I am bitter, lol, since I never gonna be popular in internet. Mmh remains me of that youtube song "I wanna be internet celebrity". [/QUOTE]
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