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Why Psionics is broken and what to do to fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="Valor" data-source="post: 2993658" data-attributes="member: 43161"><p>Well I don’t know if your DM should be actively trying to stop a character form doing something that he is supposed to be doing but…if he can’t figure out a way to do so then he simply needs to get much much more creative. So a Psion doesn’t have to carry around flammable bat poo…(thanks god). But there are other ways to stop a Psion from being effective. Depending on the Discipline it could be as easy as using a different type of monster. Or maybe make the Psion blind. While this wont necessarily stop him it might slow him down enough. There is also the option of getting the Psion confused or knocked out or some combination of those. With the exceptions of spell components all the same ways to take out a Wiz applies to a Psion. My personal favorite is grapple. Not to mention deal some damage around 12-17 point of damage every two round to the Psion and well have fun making concentration checks. </p><p></p><p>Wildstarsearch even with the ability to sling disintegrates around often, (even every round if need be). The Power is no where near as powerful (no pun intended) as the Arcane version. It still nears a ranged touch attack (And is applicable to critical hits by the same rules) and has a Fort save for most Damage. And it is a massive drain on power points. Also deepening again on Discipline of your character well this could be one of the few true damage dealing Psionic powers. Not to mention one of the best damage dealing powers, since it can effect even creatures with out Con scores. And it is a fairly high level power so that’s a big counter balance to its constant use as a primary damage dealing power. </p><p></p><p>I have a questions for you Wildstarsearch. How, if at all, do you make the distinction between your Arcane or Psion powers when you are choosing them? By this I mean do you use your Arcane ones for buff spells and your Psions ones for damage dealing or visa versa? Also how do you find playing a cerebramancer? I don’t mean how is the class but do you find it well balanced and not a broken Prestige Class? It has been hotly debated why with so many if not nearly all the Psionic prestige classes lacking full manifester level progression why they would bother to include one with both arcane and Psionic full caster/manifester levels. Personally I always found it to be a one of the few areas where Psionics in my mind is unbalanced. I actually prefer that prestige classes to not have full manifester progression; it makes the base classes more worthwhile. What do you think?</p><p></p><p>Valor</p><p></p><p></p><p>To Home and Victory</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Valor, post: 2993658, member: 43161"] Well I don’t know if your DM should be actively trying to stop a character form doing something that he is supposed to be doing but…if he can’t figure out a way to do so then he simply needs to get much much more creative. So a Psion doesn’t have to carry around flammable bat poo…(thanks god). But there are other ways to stop a Psion from being effective. Depending on the Discipline it could be as easy as using a different type of monster. Or maybe make the Psion blind. While this wont necessarily stop him it might slow him down enough. There is also the option of getting the Psion confused or knocked out or some combination of those. With the exceptions of spell components all the same ways to take out a Wiz applies to a Psion. My personal favorite is grapple. Not to mention deal some damage around 12-17 point of damage every two round to the Psion and well have fun making concentration checks. Wildstarsearch even with the ability to sling disintegrates around often, (even every round if need be). The Power is no where near as powerful (no pun intended) as the Arcane version. It still nears a ranged touch attack (And is applicable to critical hits by the same rules) and has a Fort save for most Damage. And it is a massive drain on power points. Also deepening again on Discipline of your character well this could be one of the few true damage dealing Psionic powers. Not to mention one of the best damage dealing powers, since it can effect even creatures with out Con scores. And it is a fairly high level power so that’s a big counter balance to its constant use as a primary damage dealing power. I have a questions for you Wildstarsearch. How, if at all, do you make the distinction between your Arcane or Psion powers when you are choosing them? By this I mean do you use your Arcane ones for buff spells and your Psions ones for damage dealing or visa versa? Also how do you find playing a cerebramancer? I don’t mean how is the class but do you find it well balanced and not a broken Prestige Class? It has been hotly debated why with so many if not nearly all the Psionic prestige classes lacking full manifester level progression why they would bother to include one with both arcane and Psionic full caster/manifester levels. Personally I always found it to be a one of the few areas where Psionics in my mind is unbalanced. I actually prefer that prestige classes to not have full manifester progression; it makes the base classes more worthwhile. What do you think? Valor To Home and Victory [/QUOTE]
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