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Why Psionics is broken and what to do to fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="Tikiman" data-source="post: 2994403" data-attributes="member: 43159"><p>I'm confused. If you're spending 50% plus of your PP, how are you keeping up for the 3-5 encounters you said your DM throws at you? And how are you putting 17pp into Vigor? As a 17th level Cerebremancer your highest ML should be 14. If you're using Overchannel are you taking into account the Xd8 damage you should be taking every time you use it? You may want to double check all your abilities to make sure what you're doing is legal. Pay very close attention to you manifester level.</p><p></p><p>And in general, this tactic is reffered to as 'going nova' and stems from a pushover DM. If you are able to regularly do this your DM isn't enforcing those 3-5 encounters. You need to voluntarily stop metagaming and softcap your PP expenditure at 20% (+10% for every CR the encounter is above your level) per encounter. A swift M's Disjunction will also deflate your character. There are also tactics such as; false encounters (illusions), an ambush where you are the first target, and throwing enough minions at you before hand so that you don't have 50% of your PP by the time you get to the boss. Heck, an evil cleric with Antimagic Field could woop your booty.</p><p></p><p>The problems you're having are something I've seen and delt with dozens of times. They stem from two things. The first is Temporal Acceleration. DM's who cant challenge there players with multiple encounters fall like kobolds to TA. Remove that power from your character and see how things work out. The second is that your DM is a complete and total noob. He doesn't dispel you. He doesn't ambush you. He doesn't target casters first. Has he ever used a save-or-die effect on you (you seem to be begging for a Finger of Death). I've seen mobs in DDO with better tactics then him. Whoever is DMing needs to brush up on the rules more before they try running high level games.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and could you please post all of your feats (and your discipline)? This post is begining to gain a familiar odor to it. A regular on the WotC Psionics forums loves to post problems such as this, but when you ask him to actually give you the character he refuses (because if you build it yourself you find it has somewhere around 20+feats). While your at it, could we get a list of your magic/psionic items as well?</p><p></p><p></p><p>And about Psionic damage being so overpowered due to versatility, I have to ask, is direct damage really that big of a problem at higher levels? When your group cleric could be casting Implosion I really don't see how 17d6+17 energy damage is a big deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tikiman, post: 2994403, member: 43159"] I'm confused. If you're spending 50% plus of your PP, how are you keeping up for the 3-5 encounters you said your DM throws at you? And how are you putting 17pp into Vigor? As a 17th level Cerebremancer your highest ML should be 14. If you're using Overchannel are you taking into account the Xd8 damage you should be taking every time you use it? You may want to double check all your abilities to make sure what you're doing is legal. Pay very close attention to you manifester level. And in general, this tactic is reffered to as 'going nova' and stems from a pushover DM. If you are able to regularly do this your DM isn't enforcing those 3-5 encounters. You need to voluntarily stop metagaming and softcap your PP expenditure at 20% (+10% for every CR the encounter is above your level) per encounter. A swift M's Disjunction will also deflate your character. There are also tactics such as; false encounters (illusions), an ambush where you are the first target, and throwing enough minions at you before hand so that you don't have 50% of your PP by the time you get to the boss. Heck, an evil cleric with Antimagic Field could woop your booty. The problems you're having are something I've seen and delt with dozens of times. They stem from two things. The first is Temporal Acceleration. DM's who cant challenge there players with multiple encounters fall like kobolds to TA. Remove that power from your character and see how things work out. The second is that your DM is a complete and total noob. He doesn't dispel you. He doesn't ambush you. He doesn't target casters first. Has he ever used a save-or-die effect on you (you seem to be begging for a Finger of Death). I've seen mobs in DDO with better tactics then him. Whoever is DMing needs to brush up on the rules more before they try running high level games. Oh, and could you please post all of your feats (and your discipline)? This post is begining to gain a familiar odor to it. A regular on the WotC Psionics forums loves to post problems such as this, but when you ask him to actually give you the character he refuses (because if you build it yourself you find it has somewhere around 20+feats). While your at it, could we get a list of your magic/psionic items as well? And about Psionic damage being so overpowered due to versatility, I have to ask, is direct damage really that big of a problem at higher levels? When your group cleric could be casting Implosion I really don't see how 17d6+17 energy damage is a big deal. [/QUOTE]
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