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Why Psionics is broken and what to do to fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="Marcus Smythe" data-source="post: 2996228" data-attributes="member: 43198"><p>1.) Lack of Components: Yes, this is a difference. I submit that any mage who, at 17th lvl, finds himself getting shut down by grapples, silence, etc. is a mage who will have a short lifespan. Still, advantage-Psion</p><p></p><p>2.) Unlimited High Level Abilities: Okay, I'm counting 16 Disintigrates off of the Sorcerer.. use the 'Metamagic Sorcerer' variant, and a good chunk of those would be empowered.. or.. -gasp- Twinned. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>3.) Temporal Acceleration/Schism. Time Stop and memorizing quickend spells. Psion version is granted more flexible.</p><p></p><p>4.) Many of them are better than their mage counterparts. Then again... the psionic version of invisibility is a joke compared to its Mage counterpart, I'm still looking for the Psionic Color Spray, Evards B.T., and Ottos Irresistable You-Loose (aka Dance), and in many instances, even where there is a psionic counterpart, you have to pay a feat for it, or be the right sub-specialty.. which means your paying a feat for OTHER abilities that the mage just kinda scribbles into his tome-o-happy. (Consider the Following: Fireball. Polymorph Self. Flight. If your a psion, you cannot have all 3 without paying 2 feats)</p><p></p><p>Takasi: In closing, I wanted to say thank you for coming into the thread. I find your insight helpful, and am glad to provide my thoughts whenever useful (though we may in the end agree to disagree).</p><p></p><p>Final Thought: I see an Artificier 16 in that party. If the Caster Level 13x2 Cerebremancer is dominating in a group with an Artificer 16, its cause the Artificier aint tryin. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marcus Smythe, post: 2996228, member: 43198"] 1.) Lack of Components: Yes, this is a difference. I submit that any mage who, at 17th lvl, finds himself getting shut down by grapples, silence, etc. is a mage who will have a short lifespan. Still, advantage-Psion 2.) Unlimited High Level Abilities: Okay, I'm counting 16 Disintigrates off of the Sorcerer.. use the 'Metamagic Sorcerer' variant, and a good chunk of those would be empowered.. or.. -gasp- Twinned. :confused: 3.) Temporal Acceleration/Schism. Time Stop and memorizing quickend spells. Psion version is granted more flexible. 4.) Many of them are better than their mage counterparts. Then again... the psionic version of invisibility is a joke compared to its Mage counterpart, I'm still looking for the Psionic Color Spray, Evards B.T., and Ottos Irresistable You-Loose (aka Dance), and in many instances, even where there is a psionic counterpart, you have to pay a feat for it, or be the right sub-specialty.. which means your paying a feat for OTHER abilities that the mage just kinda scribbles into his tome-o-happy. (Consider the Following: Fireball. Polymorph Self. Flight. If your a psion, you cannot have all 3 without paying 2 feats) Takasi: In closing, I wanted to say thank you for coming into the thread. I find your insight helpful, and am glad to provide my thoughts whenever useful (though we may in the end agree to disagree). Final Thought: I see an Artificier 16 in that party. If the Caster Level 13x2 Cerebremancer is dominating in a group with an Artificer 16, its cause the Artificier aint tryin. :D [/QUOTE]
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