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Why Psionics is broken and what to do to fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="Marcus Smythe" data-source="post: 2996528" data-attributes="member: 43198"><p>1.) True, in more than a few instances a single psionic power can duplicate mutliple spells. Lets face it, would a spontaneous caster with a short powers-knowable list EVER LEARN 4 different powers, one for each elemental reistance? I think not. Limited vs. Unlimited spells known really changes the way you look at things.</p><p></p><p>2.) Astral Constructs are pretty much bruisers. Summons are mutlitools. And you can only have one Astral Construct at a time, post Complete Psionic. Different != Better</p><p></p><p>3.) Whats the psionic counterpart to Chain Contingency? Mordenkainens Disjunction? Orb of Force? Gate? Invisibility? And shall we discuss both Flight and Teleport likely costing a feat? The Psionic limited wish comes later, and the psionic Wish is more limited, than the Arcane version (and shouldnt you be bitching about Miracle?) Ottos Irresistable I Win Button? Evards Black AOE I Win Button? Color Spraying I Win Button? Maybe just WEB?</p><p></p><p>As for the powers named:</p><p>Schism: Telepath Only, all others must spend a feet. Equivalent to an extra Quicken every round.. decent for buffs, not so decent for nuking. Great way to burn out in a round.</p><p></p><p>Fission: Ohh! Another you, only without any magic items? Lifespan <= 1 rnd</p><p></p><p>Astral Construct: Covered above. Closest parallell is likely Summon Natures Ally, since the Druids do get better bruisers than the Wizards.</p><p></p><p>Timeless Body: Re-read this power. Though YOUR immune, it aint. Dispel and carry on. Heck, Ill hide under a Primsy Sphere if I want to be stuff-proof.. much harder to knock down than Timeless Body.</p><p></p><p>4.) The Psions 4 Powers Per Round: Great in theory. Nova builds tend to be low-utility 1-trick ponys that can blow up a game, or themselves, in nothing flat. This is not a psionic unique attribute... but somehow psionics is 'bad' for it, but any other class that does it is just playing D+D? And as for multiple actions in a round... </p><p>Chronytron Shapeshift, Timestop, Gate-until-sufficient Solars/Balors/etc. are present to handle ANY situation. And then cast some.</p><p>Now theres a nova.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marcus Smythe, post: 2996528, member: 43198"] 1.) True, in more than a few instances a single psionic power can duplicate mutliple spells. Lets face it, would a spontaneous caster with a short powers-knowable list EVER LEARN 4 different powers, one for each elemental reistance? I think not. Limited vs. Unlimited spells known really changes the way you look at things. 2.) Astral Constructs are pretty much bruisers. Summons are mutlitools. And you can only have one Astral Construct at a time, post Complete Psionic. Different != Better 3.) Whats the psionic counterpart to Chain Contingency? Mordenkainens Disjunction? Orb of Force? Gate? Invisibility? And shall we discuss both Flight and Teleport likely costing a feat? The Psionic limited wish comes later, and the psionic Wish is more limited, than the Arcane version (and shouldnt you be bitching about Miracle?) Ottos Irresistable I Win Button? Evards Black AOE I Win Button? Color Spraying I Win Button? Maybe just WEB? As for the powers named: Schism: Telepath Only, all others must spend a feet. Equivalent to an extra Quicken every round.. decent for buffs, not so decent for nuking. Great way to burn out in a round. Fission: Ohh! Another you, only without any magic items? Lifespan <= 1 rnd Astral Construct: Covered above. Closest parallell is likely Summon Natures Ally, since the Druids do get better bruisers than the Wizards. Timeless Body: Re-read this power. Though YOUR immune, it aint. Dispel and carry on. Heck, Ill hide under a Primsy Sphere if I want to be stuff-proof.. much harder to knock down than Timeless Body. 4.) The Psions 4 Powers Per Round: Great in theory. Nova builds tend to be low-utility 1-trick ponys that can blow up a game, or themselves, in nothing flat. This is not a psionic unique attribute... but somehow psionics is 'bad' for it, but any other class that does it is just playing D+D? And as for multiple actions in a round... Chronytron Shapeshift, Timestop, Gate-until-sufficient Solars/Balors/etc. are present to handle ANY situation. And then cast some. Now theres a nova. [/QUOTE]
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