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<blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3007257" data-attributes="member: 43358"><p>Great!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is pretty important information.</p><p></p><p>It looks that there were mitigating circumstances that made the dragon not quite as rough as he could have been. Unable to attack effectively and the opposition using action points, which can do a number of impressive things at this level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Impressive. DC 29 vs a 14th level wilder likely has 9 base, 1 or 2 from wisdom, and likely 3 from a cloak of resistance would give about a +14 which means 70% chance of failure, unless an action point is used which could boost the chance of success.</p><p></p><p>I am just going through the list of things to see what the overall chances are. This one alone would've changed the entire encounter for the worse for the wilder.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is true. Expensive though. I am curious though, did you allow the wilder to use schism while in acceleration or not? It is specifically disallowed by the power, but it is easy to miss.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What was the wilder doing during this extra acceleration? I assume that it was not the same one that was used for schism.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, missing that touch attack would be difficult! I probably didnt need to put it into the equation earlier.</p><p></p><p>Defeating the SR each blast is decently impressive though. It may be only 25% for the main blasts while fully surged but it had to be quite a few blasts in a row.</p><p></p><p>Schism cant blast with energy ray though, it doesnt have any fingers. This isnt that big of a deal though, so we'll move on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How is this possible though? Anticipatory strike does not give you extra actions, it merely allows you to use next rounds actions now instead of then.</p><p></p><p>It would allow the wilder to get some actions faster one time but after that it would skip its next turn and then have to wait until its next turn after that popped up or it manifested the power again to use the following action early.</p><p></p><p>The dragon would have a move of 40' and a cone of fire that goes 60'.</p><p></p><p>I am guessing that this was just a misreading of the power, which happens, but isnt exclusive to powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good! It sucks to have a useless character or a specialist whose specialty never comes up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It certainly looks like the pc's had the deck stacked in their favor and there were a few potential misreadings which are always unfortunate while the enemy was incredibly overpowered.</p><p></p><p>If the wilder had failed the save vs fear they would have had to flee, if the dragon had gotten in a breath weapon or full attack they would have died, if the wilder had not known what the dragon weakness was because of an insufficient skill check or the dragon disguising its color they would have been forced to flee, and it sounds like if they had not been using action points they would have been a great deal worse off as well.</p><p></p><p>Was it an exciting encounter though? it sounds like it. Are they still talking about it? If so it was a success no matter what else might've happened.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah. When you play one though you see all of the things that other casters do that you cannot. In the last game I was in I envied haste so very, very much. Full party buff, incredible effects, especially when the cleric popped up a prayer as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slaved, post: 3007257, member: 43358"] Great! This is pretty important information. It looks that there were mitigating circumstances that made the dragon not quite as rough as he could have been. Unable to attack effectively and the opposition using action points, which can do a number of impressive things at this level. Impressive. DC 29 vs a 14th level wilder likely has 9 base, 1 or 2 from wisdom, and likely 3 from a cloak of resistance would give about a +14 which means 70% chance of failure, unless an action point is used which could boost the chance of success. I am just going through the list of things to see what the overall chances are. This one alone would've changed the entire encounter for the worse for the wilder. This is true. Expensive though. I am curious though, did you allow the wilder to use schism while in acceleration or not? It is specifically disallowed by the power, but it is easy to miss. What was the wilder doing during this extra acceleration? I assume that it was not the same one that was used for schism. Yeah, missing that touch attack would be difficult! I probably didnt need to put it into the equation earlier. Defeating the SR each blast is decently impressive though. It may be only 25% for the main blasts while fully surged but it had to be quite a few blasts in a row. Schism cant blast with energy ray though, it doesnt have any fingers. This isnt that big of a deal though, so we'll move on. How is this possible though? Anticipatory strike does not give you extra actions, it merely allows you to use next rounds actions now instead of then. It would allow the wilder to get some actions faster one time but after that it would skip its next turn and then have to wait until its next turn after that popped up or it manifested the power again to use the following action early. The dragon would have a move of 40' and a cone of fire that goes 60'. I am guessing that this was just a misreading of the power, which happens, but isnt exclusive to powers. Good! It sucks to have a useless character or a specialist whose specialty never comes up. It certainly looks like the pc's had the deck stacked in their favor and there were a few potential misreadings which are always unfortunate while the enemy was incredibly overpowered. If the wilder had failed the save vs fear they would have had to flee, if the dragon had gotten in a breath weapon or full attack they would have died, if the wilder had not known what the dragon weakness was because of an insufficient skill check or the dragon disguising its color they would have been forced to flee, and it sounds like if they had not been using action points they would have been a great deal worse off as well. Was it an exciting encounter though? it sounds like it. Are they still talking about it? If so it was a success no matter what else might've happened. Yeah. When you play one though you see all of the things that other casters do that you cannot. In the last game I was in I envied haste so very, very much. Full party buff, incredible effects, especially when the cleric popped up a prayer as well. [/QUOTE]
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