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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tikiman" data-source="post: 3007778" data-attributes="member: 43159">This is not a fact, this is a highly debated opinion.  Both you and Thanee need to learn the difference between a fact and an opinion.  I have no problem with the opinion that psionics are overpowered, but trying to tout it as a fact is just plain rude.Between polls and the fact that this debate has never been resolved, I can't help but think that the general evidence suggest the psion and the wizard are in balance with each other.  Each has things they do better then the other.  Would you agree that there are problems of imbalance with arcane magic as well?  (eg Rope Trick, Gate, Disjunction, never seeing a Wiz20, etc)The problem is that you can't use the fact that your character is overpowered compared to your group as evidence that all of psionics is overpowered compared to the rest of D&D (like you did in post 223, as well as elsewhere).  That's like saying 'I'm taller then my brother, so I must be taller then everyone else'.  I've got no problem with the topic as a whole, but you're using disingenuous tactics to further your argument.Funny thing, I've had several people I live with (college house) read what I posted to you, and all of them responded with 'he wants an apology...for that?'.  All of them instantly recognized that my text towards Thanee was meant as sarcastic/exasperated, not an attack.  I should have remembered it's easier to say "you're attacking me" then to actually reply to the topics in the post, and therefore posted with my kiddy-gloves on.No, by ignoring me when I (and others) were posting politely you invited me to be blunt in order to get a response.  I had to pester you about admitting your character was designed to be overpowered before I got a response about it.  I continually get the feeling that you're trying to steer the conversation in a specific direction, away from topics that weaken your position.But we quickly learned that your biggest beef was with your current character in your current campaign.  I have to ask (and this is something I'm going to pester you about, so please respond), is this your first psionic character?  If not, what have you previously played and how was the experience?  If you haven't, then how can you justify using your experiences in this...unique situation as evidence that all of psionics should be nerfed?Welcome to the internet.  If you think I'm bad, I'd suggest getting a protection from fire item before you do much more posting.  Anonymity + humans = bad juu-juu, especially given that nobody seems to recognize sarcasm for what it is and instead takes it as a personal attack.And I have made several suggestion of how psionics could very well be overpowered, especially at your gaming table.  The total list of potential problem areas, from what topics have been raised here, include non-XPH psionic material (anything non-core/campaign is broken by default), extra action powers (Temporal Acceleration, Schism, Anticipatory Strike, Synchronicity, etc), and the Cerebremancer PrC (though I've had lots of non-overpowered experience with it, it's apparently just not right for your table).  I'm not the only one who has called these things out in particular.  Despite that, you continually harp on direct damage and other things specifically called out as stuff the psion does better then the wizard (in exchange for illusions, save-or-die effects, party buffing, etc).I thought your original point had already been covered?  People, myself included, admitted that yeah, Temporal Acceleration can be a bit of a @#$^!, so it's a decent houserule to just get rid of it.  Same for Schism.  Almost every post about how psionics are broken revolve around those powers, and yet when people admit that those are in fact problem powers, every one of those posts somehow shifts into '4 energy types for free is broken'.  It's like how people say they won't use psionics because they are overpowered, when in fact they just don't like the flavor.  It's sneaky, devious, and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.And again, I wouldn't feel the need to be rude if you wouldn't ignore things people have posted, especially when those things detract from your argument.  It sometimes feels like you haven't lost the "for those of you who don't think psionic is broken, please don't post because I agree that we disagree" attitude.This isn't an insult?  In an elitist tone you basically just told everyone that they're stupid and don't actually see what's going on, and that they don't know what playing D&D is about to boot.  And you did it again when you said "I and a few who comment see but the vast majority think that there isn't a problem."  Again you imply that your opinion is correct and there must be a problem, and anyone that doesn't agree simply doesn't know what they're talking about.Have you ever possibly considered that there isn't a problem with psionics, but simply a problem with how you play them in your 'less then optimal' groups?  Have you ever had similar problems with other caster classes?  I'm dying to know just how much experience you've had with psionics in general.I'm not trying to say that psionics is a perfect system and doesn't have it's broken areas.  But I will adamantly support the idea that it has fewer problems then arcane magic.  Every aspect of D&D has the potential to be broken in the hands of a 'powergamer' such as yourself.  It's up to the players, and the DM, to make sure they all agree on a general power level and build there characters accordingly.  Your character broke the power level of the group he was in, and in response you tried to blame 1/2 of your character's abilities.  It's like you want to use psionics as a scapegoat so you don't have to admit to being a 'powergamer'.</blockquote>

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