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<blockquote data-quote="KuKu" data-source="post: 3020070" data-attributes="member: 42817"><p>Numbers added by me. (1) So without spending the skill points a psion who picked fire for energy ray cannot get any other energy types later on? Are you going to give them extra choices of energy types (force, alignment, acid, etc) in order to keep the other energy dealers from getting way ahead? (2) Do you disallow things like greater mage armor and other armor boosters from other sources as well? (3) The normal augment is already worthless, why this change? (4) and (5) and (6) these still seem very unecissary and illogical but if you are going to do them then perhaps some other benefit should ride along with it. After all, that is a huge amount of resources to pay, well above and beyond anyone else for the same benefit. (7) why not just get rid of temporal acceleration and time stop entirely? If not that why does temporal acceleration have to be worse than time stop in effectively every way? (8) Adding power points does not increase the level of the power so this does not seem to be a change other than having a feat which could raise the actual level of the power. (9) Why this change? This seems horrible. If you are going for more wizard like then give them both. Maybe you could change the wizard to have the same choice, a single choice feat or familar plus scribe scroll. (10) Perhaps ten plus power level plus half of power points spent to augment plus five times the number of displays that the psion wishes to hide? That starts it at a base of 16, which is doable a little over half of the time for a first level psion if he puts the skill points into it for a single hidden display while a ninth level power with two points of augmentation hiding three displays would take a check of thirty-five which is possible for a twentieth level psion to fail. (11) Psychic crush is already a fifth level power and a bad one at that with its massive bonus to the will save of the target plus all of its other issues. (12) suboptimal builds are suboptimal by definition, how can they not be treated as such? If you have one optimized build, one par build, and one suboptimal build then that is likely the order they will have in the group power wise as well unless the dm goes well out of his way to make it different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KuKu, post: 3020070, member: 42817"] Numbers added by me. (1) So without spending the skill points a psion who picked fire for energy ray cannot get any other energy types later on? Are you going to give them extra choices of energy types (force, alignment, acid, etc) in order to keep the other energy dealers from getting way ahead? (2) Do you disallow things like greater mage armor and other armor boosters from other sources as well? (3) The normal augment is already worthless, why this change? (4) and (5) and (6) these still seem very unecissary and illogical but if you are going to do them then perhaps some other benefit should ride along with it. After all, that is a huge amount of resources to pay, well above and beyond anyone else for the same benefit. (7) why not just get rid of temporal acceleration and time stop entirely? If not that why does temporal acceleration have to be worse than time stop in effectively every way? (8) Adding power points does not increase the level of the power so this does not seem to be a change other than having a feat which could raise the actual level of the power. (9) Why this change? This seems horrible. If you are going for more wizard like then give them both. Maybe you could change the wizard to have the same choice, a single choice feat or familar plus scribe scroll. (10) Perhaps ten plus power level plus half of power points spent to augment plus five times the number of displays that the psion wishes to hide? That starts it at a base of 16, which is doable a little over half of the time for a first level psion if he puts the skill points into it for a single hidden display while a ninth level power with two points of augmentation hiding three displays would take a check of thirty-five which is possible for a twentieth level psion to fail. (11) Psychic crush is already a fifth level power and a bad one at that with its massive bonus to the will save of the target plus all of its other issues. (12) suboptimal builds are suboptimal by definition, how can they not be treated as such? If you have one optimized build, one par build, and one suboptimal build then that is likely the order they will have in the group power wise as well unless the dm goes well out of his way to make it different. [/QUOTE]
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