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Why Psionics is broken and what to do to fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="wildstarsreach" data-source="post: 3020258" data-attributes="member: 43141"><p>1) No, they have other powers out of CP that include Positive, Force, Physical and so on so no additional energy types are needed.</p><p></p><p>2) So at 9th level you get the effect of greater mage armor and at higher level you get additional. At 17th level, +8 to AC instead of +12 which is far above the spells that Wizards have.</p><p></p><p>3) You only get +4 deflection from which does not conflict and you can get +6 at 15th level. Add that to +7 at same level for inertial armor, say +5 for natural armor from oak body, this give him AC 28 as it is and on apar with the wizards buffs.</p><p></p><p>4) Free scaling isn't part of the way in which psionics are built and this brings them in line with the way that they are built.</p><p></p><p>5) In one manifestation you get the effect of 5 spells and that you shouldn't get free scaling as per #4. I think this is still well worth the power and will take it regardless of the character.</p><p></p><p>6) As 4 & 5, this power is well worth it at 9th level in that you can store damage of 4 types to deal again back at your enemies.</p><p></p><p>7) A wizard at 20th would have 3 spells and how many would take all three as Time Stop. A wizard would get 3.5 rounds every time with the same restrictions as Temporal Acceleration. A Psion with this power could easily use at least 2 to equal that a wizard would typically have which would be one spell or more.</p><p></p><p>8) This was meant to show an understanding and what could be done to fix other player complaints.</p><p></p><p>9) Because they shouldn't have the ability to choose whatever they want. This keeps them within the flavor of psionics. I'm not adverse to giving them both but my suggestion is to scale back to baseline and not keeping Psions above the baseline. XPH vs Core.</p><p></p><p>10) Yep, this should not be the end all and have no chance of failure but it could possibly be scaled back down to a DC 15 to start.</p><p></p><p>11) People have said that there was a lack of save or dies and I was pointing out one in which the Psion gets at a 5th level power and not 6th as most Wizard spells.</p><p></p><p>12) Okay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wildstarsreach, post: 3020258, member: 43141"] 1) No, they have other powers out of CP that include Positive, Force, Physical and so on so no additional energy types are needed. 2) So at 9th level you get the effect of greater mage armor and at higher level you get additional. At 17th level, +8 to AC instead of +12 which is far above the spells that Wizards have. 3) You only get +4 deflection from which does not conflict and you can get +6 at 15th level. Add that to +7 at same level for inertial armor, say +5 for natural armor from oak body, this give him AC 28 as it is and on apar with the wizards buffs. 4) Free scaling isn't part of the way in which psionics are built and this brings them in line with the way that they are built. 5) In one manifestation you get the effect of 5 spells and that you shouldn't get free scaling as per #4. I think this is still well worth the power and will take it regardless of the character. 6) As 4 & 5, this power is well worth it at 9th level in that you can store damage of 4 types to deal again back at your enemies. 7) A wizard at 20th would have 3 spells and how many would take all three as Time Stop. A wizard would get 3.5 rounds every time with the same restrictions as Temporal Acceleration. A Psion with this power could easily use at least 2 to equal that a wizard would typically have which would be one spell or more. 8) This was meant to show an understanding and what could be done to fix other player complaints. 9) Because they shouldn't have the ability to choose whatever they want. This keeps them within the flavor of psionics. I'm not adverse to giving them both but my suggestion is to scale back to baseline and not keeping Psions above the baseline. XPH vs Core. 10) Yep, this should not be the end all and have no chance of failure but it could possibly be scaled back down to a DC 15 to start. 11) People have said that there was a lack of save or dies and I was pointing out one in which the Psion gets at a 5th level power and not 6th as most Wizard spells. 12) Okay. [/QUOTE]
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