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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 7057969" data-attributes="member: 6803664">And that good account comes from who?1) Well, if you think so....&nbsp; Though that's not been my own xp over 36 years.BECMI/Compendium - all pretty equally quick.1e/2e &amp; 5e - all about the same.&nbsp; I'll trade the straight speed of BECMI/C for the overall increased options of these editions. 3x/PF - can range anywhere from speedy to grindingly slow.&nbsp; Just depends on the people, options, lvs, etc involved.4e....2) LOL: Group initiative as critical to long term campaigns.&nbsp; This is the 1st sign that you don't know what you're talking aboutCan't say we ever noticed any downside to using Creature Catalog, Marvelous Magic, Dragon articles, stuff we made up, stuff we added from entirely different games, etc.Unless you prefer to play the whole game, lv1-36....If those rules were critical they wouldn't be optional.I will agree that most copies of the Compendium are well made.Books wearing out?&nbsp; Well yeah, a 60-some page soft cover book held together with 3-4 staples vrs a properly bound hardback.&nbsp; Couple that with the fact that a lot of them were in the hands of kids at the time.&nbsp; So 1e had too many spells &amp; items - but somehow 2e &amp; 3x, wich in the base books had more than 1e, had about the right #?How's that math work?? No argument about the combat or this one not really being D&amp;D.&nbsp; Ever play Duck Duck Goose?&nbsp;&nbsp; Line the editions up &amp; one of them clearly isn't related to the others....Even slower than 4e?&nbsp; Clearly you're not playing 5e.&nbsp; Or maybe didn't play 4e.Right amount of monsters - and yet you complain about 1e.Too many magic items - yet 2e &amp; 3x wich had more have about the right amount.Again, I think you don't understand math.&nbsp;No, new editions of the game are to meant to increase the companies coffers.&nbsp; They come about when data shows sales of the previous edition topping off.&nbsp; Improvements?&nbsp; Those are optional.&nbsp; Only fools &amp; the inexperienced swallow the marketing PR about how this new edition is the best ever, blah blah blah. Ah!&nbsp; Now we come to it.&nbsp; Indirectly pimping your EBay listing are you?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ccs, post: 7057969, member: 6803664"] And that good account comes from who? 1) Well, if you think so.... Though that's not been my own xp over 36 years. BECMI/Compendium - all pretty equally quick. 1e/2e & 5e - all about the same. I'll trade the straight speed of BECMI/C for the overall increased options of these editions. 3x/PF - can range anywhere from speedy to grindingly slow. Just depends on the people, options, lvs, etc involved. 4e.... 2) LOL: Group initiative as critical to long term campaigns. This is the 1st sign that you don't know what you're talking about Can't say we ever noticed any downside to using Creature Catalog, Marvelous Magic, Dragon articles, stuff we made up, stuff we added from entirely different games, etc. Unless you prefer to play the whole game, lv1-36.... If those rules were critical they wouldn't be optional. I will agree that most copies of the Compendium are well made. Books wearing out? Well yeah, a 60-some page soft cover book held together with 3-4 staples vrs a properly bound hardback. Couple that with the fact that a lot of them were in the hands of kids at the time. So 1e had too many spells & items - but somehow 2e & 3x, wich in the base books had more than 1e, had about the right #? How's that math work?? No argument about the combat or this one not really being D&D. Ever play Duck Duck Goose? Line the editions up & one of them clearly isn't related to the others.... Even slower than 4e? Clearly you're not playing 5e. Or maybe didn't play 4e. Right amount of monsters - and yet you complain about 1e. Too many magic items - yet 2e & 3x wich had more have about the right amount. Again, I think you don't understand math. No, new editions of the game are to meant to increase the companies coffers. They come about when data shows sales of the previous edition topping off. Improvements? Those are optional. Only fools & the inexperienced swallow the marketing PR about how this new edition is the best ever, blah blah blah. Ah! Now we come to it. Indirectly pimping your EBay listing are you? [/QUOTE]

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