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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2923028" data-attributes="member: 1165">As long as only one person rolls, it should be fine... except, picture these scenarios.1) The evil wizard casts Wail of the Banshee. He rolls a natural 17. The whole party dies.2) The evil wizard casts Wail of the Banshee. He rolls a natural 2. What a joke!IMO, the victims make the save because of area-of-effect attacks.3.0 psionics had roll to set the save DC, along with rolled saves. Problems abounded. I recall basically wiping out the whole party in the first combat round of If Thoughts Could Kill because a mind flayer blasted them with Mind Blast with a high roll on the save DC. The cleric rolled a natural 19 or so, which is the only reason he made it. Then he had to fight off the whole enemy party for a minimum of three rounds or watch his buddies get CdG'ed/eaten one-by-one.</blockquote>