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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moorcrys" data-source="post: 6462579" data-attributes="member: 7814">FWIW, multiclassing is the only thing I've disallowed. In my experience as a player and a DM from 3.x onward, it's only ever been used to gain mechanical advantage and never grown out of any organic need to fulfill a character concept. And I'm not pointing fingers at anyone else that I'm not willing to point at myself - that's what the system encourages us to do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> Take a look at the charop threads on the WotC board - any weird mechanical loophole being exploited is through multiclassing. I can get x, y, and z by multiclassing with absolutely no drawback where I would have had to spend a feat or made some sort of sacrifice otherwise? Why wouldn't I? And it only gets more and more unbalanced as more material becomes available. It becomes a headache or forces all players to do it to keep up. So I just remove the temptation. I actually feel as though 1e and 2e did multiclassing best - when you multiclassed you picked 2 or 3 classes at character creation and were "all in" for the rest of the character's career - you didn't cherry pick... you were a fighter/cleric or a ranger/magic-user from level 1, just a level or 2 or 3 behind everybody else. I wish they had some optional rules for that in the DMG.For my money, the 5e combination of races, feats, skills, backgrounds, classes and class paths allow you to create almost any 'character concept' that you want - and I'm all for tweaking something to help you fulfill a concept within that, such as swapping a skill proficiency from a background, etc. Also, going forward, I expect game designers to keep other classes in mind when designing semi-balanced, new materials for the game system - I don't expect them to run through every possible multiclass combination and make sure there's no way to bork one class ability or another... they don't and they won't. I'm all for playing in a game where that's the case if the DM wants to go gonzo with it, but as a DM myself I don't want to deal with it. And if that's a deal breaker for you as a player, I totally understand and wish you the best. It's just not my style.</blockquote>

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