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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6463427" data-attributes="member: 19675">Agreed.&nbsp; But some don't see the forest for the trees.Some years ago, I wanted to play a Battle Sorcerer.&nbsp; The DM said no, but on looking at my concept, let me have an arcane caster who could wear armor and use martial weapons, based on his design.You would be astounded at how similar it was to the Battle Sorcerer.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />However, sometimes a spell-list swap is all you need.&nbsp; I love martial spellcasters- see my sig- and I would have loved to see versions of the Bard, Beguiler or WarMage with spell lists focused on the other arcane schools, for instance.&nbsp; Or with a divine spell list...Or an Arcane half-caster, based on the paladin.&nbsp; I'm playing an Arcane Paladin concept right now, and it is a hell of a kludge.&nbsp; And yes, multiclassing is involved: Marshal2/Duskblade2/Battle Sorcerer6 w/Stalwart Sorcerer.&nbsp; Not too many ways to have a LG PC with martial prowess, armored arcane spellcasting, and mystic auras without MCing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6463427, member: 19675"] Agreed. But some don't see the forest for the trees. Some years ago, I wanted to play a Battle Sorcerer. The DM said no, but on looking at my concept, let me have an arcane caster who could wear armor and use martial weapons, based on his design. You would be [I]astounded[/I] at how similar it was to the Battle Sorcerer.:erm: However, sometimes a spell-list swap is all you need. I love martial spellcasters- see my sig- and I would have loved to see versions of the Bard, Beguiler or WarMage with spell lists focused on the other arcane schools, for instance. Or with a divine spell list... Or an Arcane half-caster, based on the paladin. I'm playing an Arcane Paladin concept right now, and it is a hell of a kludge. And yes, multiclassing is involved: Marshal2/Duskblade2/Battle Sorcerer6 w/Stalwart Sorcerer. Not too many ways to have a LG PC with martial prowess, armored arcane spellcasting, and mystic auras without MCing. [/QUOTE]

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