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<blockquote data-quote="el-remmen" data-source="post: 3139431" data-attributes="member: 11">Because the paladin class is one with a moral element built right into its core idea, and why play such a character if you don't want to use that moral aspect and have it challenged? For me it is the equivalent of playing a&nbsp; fighter but never wanting to be challenged to a fight, or playing a cleric and never getting to try to turn undead, or playing a druid and never having to deal with aspects of nature (such as defending it, or acting as its selective force <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).And so, since that moral element is at the core of the class, and the core elements of classes are there to create challenge, and moral challenges can be especially difficult (as many people have already said in this thread), being&nbsp; a paladin, is and should be &quot;hard&quot;.Now, when I say &quot;hard&quot;, I don't mean mind-numbingly bogged down in the minutae of bureacracy, or spending 3 hours arguing some moral choice (though I will admit my group would love to RP that out for an hour ot two and call it a great session) - but some quick hard choices that have to be made in the moment, or some situation where it is not easy to immediately determine who is in the right - Perhaps some choice regarding what aspect of their god or pantheon to favor tied in the fabric of the over-arching campaign plot, etc. . .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="el-remmen, post: 3139431, member: 11"] Because the paladin class is one with a moral element built right into its core idea, and why play such a character if you don't want to use that moral aspect and have it challenged? For me it is the equivalent of playing a fighter but never wanting to be challenged to a fight, or playing a cleric and never getting to try to turn undead, or playing a druid and never having to deal with aspects of nature (such as defending it, or acting as its selective force ;)). And so, since that moral element is at the core of the class, and the core elements of classes are there to create challenge, and moral challenges can be especially difficult (as many people have already said in this thread), being a paladin, is and should be "hard". Now, when I say "hard", I don't mean mind-numbingly bogged down in the minutae of bureacracy, or spending 3 hours arguing some moral choice (though I will admit my group would love to RP that out for an hour ot two and call it a great session) - but some quick hard choices that have to be made in the moment, or some situation where it is not easy to immediately determine who is in the right - Perhaps some choice regarding what aspect of their god or pantheon to favor tied in the fabric of the over-arching campaign plot, etc. . . [/QUOTE]

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