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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3861323" data-attributes="member: 32536">This doesn't make any sense at all. If verismilitude is a fantasy world being true to itself, then why does verismilitude require any truth to our reality?A cheap Hong Kong Kung Fu film has verismilitude (at least, if it isn't a bad film it will). There will be people running around, doing impossible things, fighting at superhuman levels, and defying gravity. However, all the characters in the film acknowledge the possibility of such feats, and the usual methods of acquiring the ability to perform such feats. It is internally consistent, and thus has verismilitude. As long as the film convinces the audience that the training methods and mysticism are reasonable, then there is no problem with verismilitude or suspension of disbelief.It is the same principle as magic in D&amp;D. As a whole, there is no realistic basis for the idea that just because you read enough books, you can go around rebuilding the fabric of the universe. However, all D&amp;D says is &quot;yes, it is possible, and everyone in the game world accepts this&quot;, and that is enough.There is no reason whatsoever to accept a double standard of &quot;mages are fine, but warriors have to be mundane&quot;. It is exactly that: a double standard. Why should &quot;reading books lets you do amazing things&quot; be true, and &quot;training your body lets you do amazing things&quot; be false?Anyways, I grew up playing fighting games, watching anime, reading mythology, etc. I want warriors to be a lot more cool then they are right now. I want it so that at higher levels, D&amp;D fighters can do stuff like Sol and Ky can. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRUtVQAAu0I" target="_blank">Here</a> is a youtube link for those who have never seen them fight in the Guilty Gear videogame series. Forgive the bad quality, it as good as I could find. All I can say is that those two prove that just having flaming or electrical magic weapons and being skilled with flaming or electrical magic weapons should be two very different things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 3861323, member: 32536"] This doesn't make any sense at all. If verismilitude is a fantasy world being true to itself, then why does verismilitude require any truth to our reality? A cheap Hong Kong Kung Fu film has verismilitude (at least, if it isn't a bad film it will). There will be people running around, doing impossible things, fighting at superhuman levels, and defying gravity. However, all the characters in the film acknowledge the possibility of such feats, and the usual methods of acquiring the ability to perform such feats. It is internally consistent, and thus has verismilitude. As long as the film convinces the audience that the training methods and mysticism are reasonable, then there is no problem with verismilitude or suspension of disbelief. It is the same principle as magic in D&D. As a whole, there is no realistic basis for the idea that just because you read enough books, you can go around rebuilding the fabric of the universe. However, all D&D says is "yes, it is possible, and everyone in the game world accepts this", and that is enough. There is no reason whatsoever to accept a double standard of "mages are fine, but warriors have to be mundane". It is exactly that: a double standard. Why should "reading books lets you do amazing things" be true, and "training your body lets you do amazing things" be false? Anyways, I grew up playing fighting games, watching anime, reading mythology, etc. I want warriors to be a lot more cool then they are right now. I want it so that at higher levels, D&D fighters can do stuff like Sol and Ky can. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRUtVQAAu0I]Here[/url] is a youtube link for those who have never seen them fight in the Guilty Gear videogame series. Forgive the bad quality, it as good as I could find. All I can say is that those two prove that just having flaming or electrical magic weapons and being [i]skilled[/i] with flaming or electrical magic weapons should be two very different things. [/QUOTE]

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