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<blockquote data-quote="trancejeremy" data-source="post: 5845192" data-attributes="member: 924">Bear in mind, laws are pretty much only valid if you happen to have a lawyer present. Otherwise it's your word vs the police, and who are the courts going to believe?I had my place raided by police for drugs several years ago. (I have allergies, so apparently they though I ran a meth lab on two packs of Actifed a month). They detained me outside in the rain and wouldn't let me go back inside unless I consented to a search. They also threatened to shoot my dogs. So of course, on record, I consented to the search, but they forced me to do it.And that's not even my worse experience with police...Not to delve too much into politics, but the US<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_rate" target="_blank"> has the most people in jail per capita in the world</a>. No one is even remotely close. If you really think police care too much about who they put away, you're kidding yourself.And beyond that, the site of people in body armor and heavy weapons glaring at you suspiciously really does kick in the Fight or Flight instinct. And then of course, they always ask, &quot;If you have nothing to hide, why are you so nervous?&quot; Yeah, a dozen people in body armor on your porch bristling with weaponry is a comforting sight. And a helicopter circling overhead.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="trancejeremy, post: 5845192, member: 924"] Bear in mind, laws are pretty much only valid if you happen to have a lawyer present. Otherwise it's your word vs the police, and who are the courts going to believe? I had my place raided by police for drugs several years ago. (I have allergies, so apparently they though I ran a meth lab on two packs of Actifed a month). They detained me outside in the rain and wouldn't let me go back inside unless I consented to a search. They also threatened to shoot my dogs. So of course, on record, I consented to the search, but they forced me to do it. And that's not even my worse experience with police... Not to delve too much into politics, but the US[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_rate"] has the most people in jail per capita in the world[/URL]. No one is even remotely close. If you really think police care too much about who they put away, you're kidding yourself. And beyond that, the site of people in body armor and heavy weapons glaring at you suspiciously really does kick in the Fight or Flight instinct. And then of course, they always ask, "If you have nothing to hide, why are you so nervous?" Yeah, a dozen people in body armor on your porch bristling with weaponry is a comforting sight. And a helicopter circling overhead. [/QUOTE]

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