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Why so many in a hurry to leave 3E?
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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3719252" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Yep. Got told how great 3E is, many, many times, when I talked about C&C. So its part of why I am curious since all of a sudden people are talking about how broken 3E is, how much of a burden 3E is on the DM, etc..., when I have had so many telling me in the past how great 3E is, yet many are eager to jump ship, leave the perfection of 3E for 4E.</p><p></p><p>I would think that by now they would have 3E "perfect" with all the years they have had to house rule out the problems. So why move on to 4E thats going to have its own "broken" issues? The only thing I hear that might make DMing less of a burden in 4E is if you subscribe to their online DI. Smaller monster stat blocks aren't going to do it alone.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, I am going to check out 4E, even buy the PH, just in case they did mix a magical brew out of the morass it sounds like right now.</p><p></p><p>Plus I look at my switching to C&C as my way of houseruling 3E into a rules set I can truly love.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Still, I find it curious why so many people I know "love 3E" are talking like they are willing to chuck 3E in the trash as soon as they can. Its like there has been a 360 degree shift in how great 3E is.</p><p></p><p>Is anyone who is playing 3E right now not loving it? Do they have fun and look forward to the next game session?</p><p></p><p>If they are having such a good time (which it has always sounded like to me) then why throw it away (along with the money you spent on it) to spend money on a new system that will have its own set of problems, and likely not be much, if any, of an overall improvement over 3e?</p><p></p><p>At least, in my case, my switch to C&C has kept my books almost as used and useful as they would be if I was still playing 3E. 4E will likely be just as useful to me as 3E books, so I can see why I will likely be fine with 4E. Its just that if I was still dedicated to 3E, and looking at 4E from that perspective. I would still be curious/mystified as to why people are so eager to switch to 4E.</p><p></p><p>All the rules problems I have been aware of are fixed. Polymorph is figured out (right?). All the insta kills are nerfed to be "nice-nice", so why leave the fully corrected 3E for a new rules set that will have its own new set of issues to work out?</p><p></p><p>Thats what I don't understand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 3719252, member: 10177"] Yep. Got told how great 3E is, many, many times, when I talked about C&C. So its part of why I am curious since all of a sudden people are talking about how broken 3E is, how much of a burden 3E is on the DM, etc..., when I have had so many telling me in the past how great 3E is, yet many are eager to jump ship, leave the perfection of 3E for 4E. I would think that by now they would have 3E "perfect" with all the years they have had to house rule out the problems. So why move on to 4E thats going to have its own "broken" issues? The only thing I hear that might make DMing less of a burden in 4E is if you subscribe to their online DI. Smaller monster stat blocks aren't going to do it alone. Don't get me wrong, I am going to check out 4E, even buy the PH, just in case they did mix a magical brew out of the morass it sounds like right now. Plus I look at my switching to C&C as my way of houseruling 3E into a rules set I can truly love. Still, I find it curious why so many people I know "love 3E" are talking like they are willing to chuck 3E in the trash as soon as they can. Its like there has been a 360 degree shift in how great 3E is. Is anyone who is playing 3E right now not loving it? Do they have fun and look forward to the next game session? If they are having such a good time (which it has always sounded like to me) then why throw it away (along with the money you spent on it) to spend money on a new system that will have its own set of problems, and likely not be much, if any, of an overall improvement over 3e? At least, in my case, my switch to C&C has kept my books almost as used and useful as they would be if I was still playing 3E. 4E will likely be just as useful to me as 3E books, so I can see why I will likely be fine with 4E. Its just that if I was still dedicated to 3E, and looking at 4E from that perspective. I would still be curious/mystified as to why people are so eager to switch to 4E. All the rules problems I have been aware of are fixed. Polymorph is figured out (right?). All the insta kills are nerfed to be "nice-nice", so why leave the fully corrected 3E for a new rules set that will have its own new set of issues to work out? Thats what I don't understand. [/QUOTE]
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