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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2169547" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, if Ron Moore is to be believed, it owes more to the fact that Berman was too busy prepping Voyager to pay attention, and later more because he felt DS9 was a marginalized, lost cause...not a 'true' Trek, as it were. I'm not sure if DS9 had more well-written stories...though I certainly remember it did have some. But for every excellent episode I saw, like the one about the Cardassian pretending to be a war criminal, I also saw an episode where Jake tries to get his Dad a baseball card. Not necessarily bad, but very predictable and somewhat trite.</p><p></p><p>The war picked up dramatically later, but at the time, it seemed like the war was just a 'jumping the shark' plot moment, allowing them to convienently forget that a war was going on whenever they wanted to. A big problem Trek always presented was that the universe always seemed to return to a 'Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms' situation when all was done. They may have changed this later, but when the Dominion first showed up, and then everything seemed hunky-dory but the end of the first episode of season 3...I started to mentally tune out. Especially in light of the no-holds-barred wars that were happening simultaneously on B5.</p><p></p><p>As for Enterprise, I thought the concept of 'Birth of the Federation' could have made for some compelling stories. That's not what I got, though. I got Temporal Cold Wars and standard Trek plots. It felt...boring.</p><p></p><p>As an aside about Time plots...in one of Peter David's ST:TNG novels, a research team comes aboard the Enterprise, to study temporal anomalies. Riker asks where they plan to go, and the team informs him 'right here'. When Riker asks why, the team leader explains that the Enterprise is a lodestone for these kind of things....why in the last five years, your ship has been host to nearly a dozen time anomoalies alone. That's more than most of the rest of the fleet! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 2169547, member: 151"] Well, if Ron Moore is to be believed, it owes more to the fact that Berman was too busy prepping Voyager to pay attention, and later more because he felt DS9 was a marginalized, lost cause...not a 'true' Trek, as it were. I'm not sure if DS9 had more well-written stories...though I certainly remember it did have some. But for every excellent episode I saw, like the one about the Cardassian pretending to be a war criminal, I also saw an episode where Jake tries to get his Dad a baseball card. Not necessarily bad, but very predictable and somewhat trite. The war picked up dramatically later, but at the time, it seemed like the war was just a 'jumping the shark' plot moment, allowing them to convienently forget that a war was going on whenever they wanted to. A big problem Trek always presented was that the universe always seemed to return to a 'Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms' situation when all was done. They may have changed this later, but when the Dominion first showed up, and then everything seemed hunky-dory but the end of the first episode of season 3...I started to mentally tune out. Especially in light of the no-holds-barred wars that were happening simultaneously on B5. As for Enterprise, I thought the concept of 'Birth of the Federation' could have made for some compelling stories. That's not what I got, though. I got Temporal Cold Wars and standard Trek plots. It felt...boring. As an aside about Time plots...in one of Peter David's ST:TNG novels, a research team comes aboard the Enterprise, to study temporal anomalies. Riker asks where they plan to go, and the team informs him 'right here'. When Riker asks why, the team leader explains that the Enterprise is a lodestone for these kind of things....why in the last five years, your ship has been host to nearly a dozen time anomoalies alone. That's more than most of the rest of the fleet! :) [/QUOTE]
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