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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2174271" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>I disagree, the Shadow War from Babylon 5 was better then the Dominion War. The Dominion was added in the second season to make a real threat on the other side of the Wormhole, they were foreshadowed for part of a season then they came out swinging. Even the series creators didn't know where Odo came from at first (other than it being implied that he may have come through the wormhole).</p><p></p><p>The Dominion War was very good, and by far the best ongoing storyline in any Trek series, as it showed something that we really couldn't have seen before and it really gave a chance for some great episodes. Personally I would have loved it if Enterprise had begun a few years later and been the story of the Romulan Wars (just because it didn't make it into the history books what Romulans looked like didn't mean you couldn't show them, just that all the info is secret, lost, or the witnesses never say a thing). The Remans introduced in Nemesis gave them the perfect way to field armies without being seen. Instead we got the lame "Temporal Cold War" which they even admitted they didn't think through in advance.</p><p></p><p>Babylon 5 was, from it's beginning, the story of the Shadow War, what lead up to it, the side-conflicts it created (The Narn-Centauri War & The Earth Civil War) and the aftereffects and aftermath of the war (the Telepath Crisis, the Drakh plague). Foreshadowing was set up from the first episode, and it all locked together. Foreshadowing, plot arcs, character development, that was all B5's strength because it was written as one contiguous show, designed from the beginning and most of the series even written by the same person.</p><p></p><p>I like both B5 and Trek, but each one has its strengths. Trek is best for exploring the galaxy and seeing "strange new worlds" on the edge of known space.. Babylon 5 is the story of a huge, galaxy spanning war told in one sitting, told from the point of view of a diplomatic space station caught in the middle of the war, and the side tales around that war, a massive series of interlocking story arcs where problems aren't solved with a bit of jargon and some new particle-of-the-week.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 2174271, member: 14159"] I disagree, the Shadow War from Babylon 5 was better then the Dominion War. The Dominion was added in the second season to make a real threat on the other side of the Wormhole, they were foreshadowed for part of a season then they came out swinging. Even the series creators didn't know where Odo came from at first (other than it being implied that he may have come through the wormhole). The Dominion War was very good, and by far the best ongoing storyline in any Trek series, as it showed something that we really couldn't have seen before and it really gave a chance for some great episodes. Personally I would have loved it if Enterprise had begun a few years later and been the story of the Romulan Wars (just because it didn't make it into the history books what Romulans looked like didn't mean you couldn't show them, just that all the info is secret, lost, or the witnesses never say a thing). The Remans introduced in Nemesis gave them the perfect way to field armies without being seen. Instead we got the lame "Temporal Cold War" which they even admitted they didn't think through in advance. Babylon 5 was, from it's beginning, the story of the Shadow War, what lead up to it, the side-conflicts it created (The Narn-Centauri War & The Earth Civil War) and the aftereffects and aftermath of the war (the Telepath Crisis, the Drakh plague). Foreshadowing was set up from the first episode, and it all locked together. Foreshadowing, plot arcs, character development, that was all B5's strength because it was written as one contiguous show, designed from the beginning and most of the series even written by the same person. I like both B5 and Trek, but each one has its strengths. Trek is best for exploring the galaxy and seeing "strange new worlds" on the edge of known space.. Babylon 5 is the story of a huge, galaxy spanning war told in one sitting, told from the point of view of a diplomatic space station caught in the middle of the war, and the side tales around that war, a massive series of interlocking story arcs where problems aren't solved with a bit of jargon and some new particle-of-the-week. [/QUOTE]
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