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<blockquote data-quote="Philotomy Jurament" data-source="post: 4690495" data-attributes="member: 20854">This is one of those things that I just can't get that worked up about.&nbsp; I don't have a problem with BAB.&nbsp; I don't have a problem with THAC0.&nbsp; Heck, I don't even have a problem with &quot;look at the chart on the screen or on your character sheet.&quot;&nbsp; It just isn't a significant factor, for me.That said, one thing I like about the old AC system is that it allows some cool or interesting concepts about negative AC.&nbsp; For example, AC0 might be considered a &quot;break point,&quot; or &quot;highest AC possible without magic,&quot; with negative AC being the result of magic.&nbsp; Dave Arneson has used a rule where negative AC represents magic AC such that you need equal positive magic to overcome it; that is, if a monster has a -2 AC, you need a +2 weapon in order to damage it. One thing I find interesting is that in the original D&amp;D LBBs, your PC's <a href="http://www.philotomy.com/#armor_class" target="_blank">armor class was an actual class</a>, and it indicated the kind of armor you wore.&nbsp; Dexterity doesn't modify AC, and <a href="http://www.philotomy.com/#magic_armor" target="_blank">magic armor doesn't either</a> -- it subtracts from the enemy's &quot;to hit&quot; roll.&nbsp; (Robert Fisher writes about <a href="http://web.fisher.cx/robert/infogami/THAC0" target="_blank">some THAC0 approaches, here</a>.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Philotomy Jurament, post: 4690495, member: 20854"] This is one of those things that I just can't get that worked up about. I don't have a problem with BAB. I don't have a problem with THAC0. Heck, I don't even have a problem with "look at the chart on the screen or on your character sheet." It just isn't a significant factor, for me. That said, one thing I like about the old AC system is that it allows some cool or interesting concepts about negative AC. For example, AC0 might be considered a "break point," or "highest AC possible without magic," with negative AC being the result of magic. Dave Arneson has used a rule where negative AC represents magic AC such that you need equal positive magic to overcome it; that is, if a monster has a -2 AC, you need a +2 weapon in order to damage it. One thing I find interesting is that in the original D&D LBBs, your PC's [url=http://www.philotomy.com/#armor_class]armor class was an actual [i]class[/i][/url], and it indicated the kind of armor you wore. Dexterity doesn't modify AC, and [url=http://www.philotomy.com/#magic_armor]magic armor doesn't either[/url] -- it subtracts from the enemy's "to hit" roll. (Robert Fisher writes about [url=http://web.fisher.cx/robert/infogami/THAC0]some THAC0 approaches, here[/url].) [/QUOTE]

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