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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 1691615" data-attributes="member: 1165">No. The One Ring had no power over the elven rings, one of which was worn by Gandalf. (The Ring of Fire, in fact. Ever wonder why Gandalf was so good at fire magic?)No they wouldn't. They would hardly ever miss in combat, and treasure means a lot less to monsters than to classed characters. Plus, the save DCs of monster abilities...Believe me, I've tried it and been on the receiving end of it. I can only conclude that a proper low-magic setting has to have it's own non-classed monsters.Maybe, but 3e made it worse by quantifying how much magic you had to carry on you. I recall trying to run low-magic 2e; there were no balance guidelines (not that this was a good thing), and I only called it low-magic because I had so few other campaigns to compare it to.If you do this without making large changes, then the non-spellcasting classes will get shafted though. This is why a few game companies produce low-magic settings, where the work of changing the classes is (hopefully) done for you already.Has anyone read any Forgotten Realms novels? Maybe Elminster in Myth Drannor had 3e levels of magic, but in no other novel could I find characters so covered in magic items. Not in the Erevis Cale Trilogy, not in any of the Drizzt books, not in most of Ed Greenwood's books, not in the Danilo books... none of them. Never mind saying DnD doesn't match the old fiction, it doesn't even match it's own fiction!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 1691615, member: 1165"] No. The One Ring had no power over the elven rings, one of which was worn by Gandalf. (The Ring of Fire, in fact. Ever wonder why Gandalf was so good at fire magic?) No they wouldn't. They would hardly ever miss in combat, and treasure means a lot less to monsters than to classed characters. Plus, the save DCs of monster abilities... Believe me, I've tried it and been on the receiving end of it. I can only conclude that a proper low-magic setting has to have it's own non-classed monsters. Maybe, but 3e made it worse by quantifying how much magic you had to carry on you. I recall trying to run low-magic 2e; there were no balance guidelines (not that this was a good thing), and I only called it low-magic because I had so few other campaigns to compare it to. If you do this without making large changes, then the non-spellcasting classes will get shafted though. This is why a few game companies produce low-magic settings, where the work of changing the classes is (hopefully) done for you already. Has anyone read any Forgotten Realms novels? [i]Maybe[/i] Elminster in Myth Drannor had 3e levels of magic, but in no other novel could I find characters so covered in magic items. Not in the Erevis Cale Trilogy, not in any of the Drizzt books, not in most of Ed Greenwood's books, not in the Danilo books... none of them. Never mind saying DnD doesn't match the old fiction, it doesn't even match it's [i]own[/i] fiction! [/QUOTE]

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